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Interview with Mullah Omar - transcript 

BBC News
Thursday, 15 November, 2001, 10:31 GMT

The BBC's Pashto service has interviewed Taleban
leader Mullah Mohammad Omar. The BBC asked the
questions through a Taleban intermediary over
satellite phone. He passed them on to the Taleban
leader through a hand-held radio and then attached the
phone's receiver to the radio for Mullah Omar's
answers. 

The following is the transcript of the interview 

What do you think of the current situation in
Afghanistan? 

You (the BBC) and American puppet radios have created
concern. But the current situation in Afghanistan is
related to a bigger cause - that is the destruction of
America. 

And on the other hand, the screening of Taleban [for
those who are or are not loyal] is also in process. We
will see these things happen within a short while. 

What do you mean by the destruction of America? Do you
have a concrete plan to implement this? 

The plan is going ahead and, God willing, it is being
implemented. 

But it is a huge task, which is beyond the will and
comprehension of human beings. 

If God's help is with us, this will happen within a
short period of time; keep in mind this prediction. 

Osama Bin Laden has reportedly threatened that he
would use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons
against America. Is your threat related to his? 

This is not a matter of weapons. We are hopeful for
God's help. The real matter is the extinction of
America. And, God willing, it [America] will fall to
the ground. 

During the past few days, you have lost control of
several provinces. Are you hopeful to regain the lost
territory? 

We are hopeful that you will see the same kind of
change that you saw [losing and regaining territory]. 

What was the reason for the fast retreat? Why have
your troops fled the cities? Is it because you
suffered heavily from the US bombings or have your
soldiers betrayed you? 

I told you that it is related to the larger task. 

The Taleban may have made some mistakes. 

Screening the Taleban [for loyalty] is a big task. And
these problems may serve to cleanse [errant Taleban]
of their sins. But there is a big change underway on
the other side as well. 

Can you tell us which provinces are under your control
at the moment? 

We have four-five provinces. But it is not important
how many provinces we have under our control. 

Once we did not have a single province, and then the
time came when we had all the provinces, which we have
lost in a week. So the numbers of the provinces are
not important. 

As your participation in the future government has
already been ruled out - if some of your forces decide
to join the future government as representatives of
the Taleban in general or to moderate Taleban, will
you oppose it? 

There is no such thing in the Taleban. All Taleban are
moderate. There are two things: extremism ["ifraat",
or doing something to excess] and conservatism
["tafreet", or doing something insufficiently]. So in
that sense, we are all moderates - taking the middle
path. 

The struggle for a broad-based government has been
going on for the last 20 years, but nothing came of
it. 

We will not accept a government of wrong-doers. We
prefer death than to be a part of an evil government. 

I tell you, keep this in mind. This is my prediction.
You believe it or not - it's up to you. But we will
have to wait and see. 


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