replys in message : ----- Original Message ----- From: "omega" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 3:37 PM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b
> oh they dropped the price down? amazing. > last time i looked it was $30 a month US or something outrageous like that > :P > > but still, gamespy is just greedy. they started out small, now they're huge > and have swallowed a number of companies. you cant tell me that they cant > afford the servers without charging money to download the free hosted things > :P Consider how many gig's of software they have, that all need HD space. Then add on the bandwidth needed so ppl can get at the files, then add the support team, and add share holders who want a return on any investment they made, it all soon adds up. They arent being greedy, they are being a working company. > plus, its not worth it. every mirror sucks. i had access to a personal > server at one point and it was no better. i *have* gotten over 300k/sec on a > public mirror in the middle of the night. (and even during the day, when > holy wars came out i grabbed it around 360). When I download of the public mirror and the main servers I very often get my CM's max download speed (70K/sec) so I can ask for more than that. >but still. i agree with > whatever whoever said, if they ARE making money off the free stuff. theres > no way you can deny that, even if its $6.95 a month. the services they offer > (which honestly from my standpoint arent that great) can be covered montly > by say, 50 people paying that. (i used to admin stuff that was faster;p) > look how many people there are on the planet ;p 50ppl paying $6.95/month.. that's $350/month, now, I've looked into colocational servers, and trust me, based on the amount of bandwidth FP uses there is NO WAY that would cover it. As you said, look at how many ppl are on the planet, assume most wont pay but all download at least one 50Meg file per month.. thats a hell of a lot of traffic, thus a big transfer bill, and that is where all the money goes. As I said, if ppl dont like 'em charging for downloadin their stuff, as 'em to take it off then they wont be proffiting off your work, but you wont get a cut of what they are making, because if EVERYONE desided to do that then the money they would be using for hosting charges etc would vanish and FP would shut down as it wouldnt be viable. > -omega > Blackened Interactive > http://www.nofadz.com/blackened > IRC: irc.gamesnet.net channel: #blackened-interactive > Assistant Coder, Underhive (http://www.underhive.com) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "_Phantom_" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:29 AM > Subject: Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b > > > > The point is, you aint paying for the patches or the mods, you are paying > > for the upkeep of the servers they are hosted on and the bandwidth the > > servers use, and in doing so yo get a 'thank you' with a personal server. > > For $6.95 USD (�5 UKP) per month or $59.99 USD (�43 UKP) a year that's not > > really a bad deal, granted it's probably better for us CM users than > dialup > > however. > > > > It's time to face the fact that the time of the 'free internet' is all but > > gone, because of the costs and the lack of advert money now around, if you > > want fast service, ya gonna have to pay for things. > > > > Incerdently, I belive all the files (part from maybe 2 unpopular ones) > I've > > download have had 3 main servers and a couple of mirrors for them, thus > I've > > never seen that problem. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "omega" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 3:17 PM > > Subject: Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b > > > > > > > the problem is, most of the time there are only the personal servers and > > > *ONE* mirror for most of the files. > > > > > > im not paying $30 or so to download free things. > > > add that ti $30 for ISP, $60 on average per game, plus hardware. > > somewhere, > > > somebodies getting seriously ripped off. > > > paying the cash for a game to me is fine, but as if im going to pay to > > > download *FREE* patches, and *FREE* mods.its just completely wrong. > > > > > > > > > -omega > > > Blackened Interactive > > > http://www.nofadz.com/blackened > > > IRC: irc.gamesnet.net channel: #blackened-interactive > > > Assistant Coder, Underhive (http://www.underhive.com) > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "_Phantom_" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:10 AM > > > Subject: Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b > > > > > > > > > > I download at all kinds of times, mostly when the US are up as well, > > I've > > > > never had to wait longer than 40mins for a file off one of the main > > > servers > > > > (last one was RtCW multiplayer demo) > > > > I dont have the money to pay atm so I dont and use the free system > > > > > > > > As for charging, tech the are charging u so they can maintain the > > system, > > > > revnues (sp?) from adverts and the like which companys like this used > to > > > use > > > > to maintain the opertations have all but vanished, if they dont charge > > > they > > > > will have to close down (hosting + bandwidth charges for something > like > > > > fileplanet are gonna be huge!!! so after everyone pays their $x, I > > forget > > > > how much, but I know it's not much, I doubt they are turning a huge > > profit > > > > as they dont charge per download, just per month/year) > > > > > > > > If you dont like them hosting your files, email them and tell 'em to > > stop, > > > > as you are the copyright holder of the work then they have no choice > (as > > I > > > > understand it), however, imho that's just petty.. if I produce > something > > I > > > > want it to reach as wider audiance as I can, if some ppl chose to > spend > > > some > > > > $$$$ to download files quicker, all power to 'em I say. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
