Well one thng that you can do is use their words against them in a sense.

"Mark has told me that he wrote the majority of the code for SC mp3 player, and Tom 
helped him with it. However, Sven Viking has said otherwise...
"

Hmm the leader of your mod says otherwise, plus tom, now i personally don't see why 
two mod members would lie about this....oh a big war with RealDm ooo, oh wait Sven 
Coop has allready been released(end sarcasm ;p)!

He kills any truth to his claim here:

"I don't even consider the mp3 player "Stealing" because Mark wrote the majority of 
it".


so many mods out there, I propose a mod council that will oversee the justice and 
rights of mods.

the last part was a joke :)



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-----Original Message-----
From: "Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 13:24:20 -0000
Subject: [hlcoders] What to do when people blatently steal your code?

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I know this is slightly OT, but ill go on anyway :)

I used to code for SvenCoop, www.svencoop.com and made the mp3 player for i=
t, both Sniper and Shimms can vouch for this. Then a coder named Mark joine=
d the team, but was eventually kicked as we suspected he had stolen parts o=
f our code, and he was found to have entered rouge code. Then a few days go=
, some shots on PHL showed our mp3 player in their mod. We then got into di=
scussions with planet halflife on what to do as we wanted to warn them of m=
ark.

Then we found this on their site:

Well lately we have been receiving complaints from the Sven Co-Op team sayi=
ng that we stole their mp3 player code, because Real DM Co-Leader, and lead=
 coder, Mark, was a previous coder for them. While the SC team is claiming =
we stole the code which was originally written by previous coder, Tom. Mark=
 has told me that he wrote the majority of the code for SC mp3 player, and =
Tom helped him with it. However, Sven Viking has said otherwise...
[...]
However, someone from the SC team is also accusing us of stealing other par=
ts of the code for Real DM and that is just pure lies. I don't even conside=
r the mp3 player "Stealing" because Mark wrote the majority of it, however,=
 accusing us of stealing other code just because of an assumption, is not r=
ight.

The mp3 player was completly written by me ( with advice&help from another1=
 another ex-coder of svencoop), and its just lying that he claims he wrote =
it.

Anyhow, we are trying to get it sorted, but im not sure there is much we ca=
n do, any thing you can think of?

--tom







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