The HL Rally team found the best way of tackling this on-going problem of code theft was to tell the community. After Half-Life Street Racing blatently stole our whole project's source code, we decided to contact Planet Half-Life explaining what had happened, and supplied all the proof we had. They were more than willing to write a feature telling the world the acts of HLSR's PR Manager, Zer0.
This lead to HLSR's downfall as the community flamed the mod for its unoriginality and bastardisation of HLR's source. Whilst an MP3 player is much less serious than an entire project being ripped, this is just an example of how the community can assist when pricks such as Zer0 blatently steal another's hard work. Those interested, the PHL article can be found at http://www.planethalflife.com/features/articles/rallywars Cheers, FragMented HL Rally PR Manager http://hlrally.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "brian c.strider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 1:47 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] What to do when people blatently steal your code? Well one thng that you can do is use their words against them in a sense. "Mark has told me that he wrote the majority of the code for SC mp3 player, and Tom helped him with it. However, Sven Viking has said otherwise... " Hmm the leader of your mod says otherwise, plus tom, now i personally don't see why two mod members would lie about this....oh a big war with RealDm ooo, oh wait Sven Coop has allready been released(end sarcasm ;p)! He kills any truth to his claim here: "I don't even consider the mp3 player "Stealing" because Mark wrote the majority of it". so many mods out there, I propose a mod council that will oversee the justice and rights of mods. the last part was a joke :) Poltergeist Leader http://poltergeist.unitedgaming.net/ Dark Truths mapper http://darktruths.c4software.net/ -----Original Message----- From: "Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 13:24:20 -0000 Subject: [hlcoders] What to do when people blatently steal your code? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I know this is slightly OT, but ill go on anyway :) I used to code for SvenCoop, www.svencoop.com and made the mp3 player for i= t, both Sniper and Shimms can vouch for this. Then a coder named Mark joine= d the team, but was eventually kicked as we suspected he had stolen parts o= f our code, and he was found to have entered rouge code. Then a few days go= , some shots on PHL showed our mp3 player in their mod. We then got into di= scussions with planet halflife on what to do as we wanted to warn them of m= ark. Then we found this on their site: Well lately we have been receiving complaints from the Sven Co-Op team sayi= ng that we stole their mp3 player code, because Real DM Co-Leader, and lead= coder, Mark, was a previous coder for them. While the SC team is claiming = we stole the code which was originally written by previous coder, Tom. Mark= has told me that he wrote the majority of the code for SC mp3 player, and = Tom helped him with it. However, Sven Viking has said otherwise... [...] However, someone from the SC team is also accusing us of stealing other par= ts of the code for Real DM and that is just pure lies. I don't even conside= r the mp3 player "Stealing" because Mark wrote the majority of it, however,= accusing us of stealing other code just because of an assumption, is not r= ight. The mp3 player was completly written by me ( with advice&help from another1= another ex-coder of svencoop), and its just lying that he claims he wrote = it. Anyhow, we are trying to get it sorted, but im not sure there is much we ca= n do, any thing you can think of? --tom -- _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
