Yikes! It's like blood in the water around sharks, but instead of sharks we have *nix freaks!
As a corporation and working for other corporations, I (and my various employers) never have had a problem paying a fee that, compared to the salary they pay me and the total revenue they bring it and the marketing value of the website, is miniscule and as a percentage less then .01% of their total yearly income! $1700 for a licensed Win2000 server + SQL Server is a drop in the bucket. So instead of focusing on a cost that you would likely never pay anyway, I don't mind arguing the +- of any one platform. I mean, how many companies have shelled out the cost of a Coldfusion server (at a MUCH higher price) just so they can hire less expensive programmers (since the platform is /real/ easy to manage and manipulate (albeit at the expense of some functionality and speed). Regarding functionality of ASP versus PHP. Yes, if you know C++ you can construct or use other libraries for functionality. C# ships with most common libraries standardized and integrated into the platform and includes tools made to allow a small to a large development shop reuse the code and (again) work as a standardized platform. PHP standardization is non-existant (except in the case of Zend which has a cost, yes?) . My last complaint is database support. MYSql isn't truly an option for a large development platform as, while it does improve, it lacks much of the needed functionality that more robust and developed platforms provide (dynamic stored procedures, row level locking, foreign key constraint and trickle, object clustering). On Linux, you have to use Sybase or Oracle (I believe?) or DB2. All of these options cost money (in the case of Oracle, quite an exorbitant amount). I consider Sybase a very good database, but MS Sql Server is comparable (seeing as how it's roots exist in Sybase10x). Just my thoughts! I'm a die-hard ./ fan and *nix geek as well. Shane PHXX.net p.s. ASP can be run off chilsoft! platform on Apache as well. ----- Original Message ----- From: "jc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 5:07 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Looking for a HLSTATS, SQLServer and ASP Coder > The point is you have the *choice*. With mircro$haft you have freedoms > taken away. oh how much does it cost to set up a legal ASP box? And how > much for a legal PHP/Apache box :o?? I personally dont trust anything > from a company that large. Having read about how ms manipulated and held > back netscape i am convinced they should be kicked squarely in the nuts. > > Of course if you like expensive software from the bloat king who am I to > try an change your mind. Myself, well I will be returning to my Linux > box to play with my backend PHP library code. Which was so easy to write > its untrue. If you can figure out C++ then I challenge you not to find > PHP the most easy language on the planet. > > jc > > > Daniel Koppes wrote: > > > True... but PHP can run on IIS too :) > > > > At 17:46 16/08/03, you wrote: > > > >> ASP only runs on Micro$haft IIS -- the most remotely hacked web > >> server on > >> earth. > >> > >> Flexible in terms of the number of ways you can be "0wn3ed", maybe. > >> > >> At 09:18 PM 8/15/2003 -0400, you wrote: > >> > >>> You are obviously biased. ;) > >>> > >>> With 14 years of professional development experience I can say hands > >>> down I > >>> find ASP (and more so .net) far more flexible and capable the PHP > >>> any day. > >>> However, it, like Perl, awk, sed, etc all have their place in the > >>> scheme of > >>> development ;) > >> > >> > >> Michael A. Hobson > >> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> (310) 649-0792 > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > >> > > > > > > ---------- > > Programmer and Modeller for <http://pokemod.fragoff.net/>The > > <http://pokemod.fragoff.net/>Pokemod > > > > ---------- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
