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Hi Adam.. thanks for the pointer put I have all ready gone though all of that tutorial and a few others to get to the point I am at now. For some reason the are just having a problem knowing when to shoot..because its clear to me that they can shoot... Mr Mike Valve..if you have some time...be great if you could have a quick look at the problem...please I have also tried other suggestions from.... http://forums.thewavelength.net/index.php?showtopic=11368 and http://forums.thewavelength.net/index.php?s=7b522673c5b2f88c8ca78e81eaf573e1&showtopic=11430 _________________________________________________________________ Telstra’s Next GTM Network - now on Pre-Paid. Find out more. www.spreadthegoodstuff.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fclk%2Eatdmt%2Ecom%2FOAT%2Fgo%2Fnnmsnnxg0080000046oat%2Fdirect%2F01%2F&_t=765565283&_r=Telstra_FFF_Prepaid_Hotmail_Email_Taglines_JuySep07_Aug&_m=EXT -- _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders