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> From: hlcoders-requ...@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: hlcoders Digest, Vol 34, Issue 10 > To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com > Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 06:31:44 -0800 > > Send hlcoders mailing list submissions to > hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > hlcoders-requ...@list.valvesoftware.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > hlcoders-ow...@list.valvesoftware.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of hlcoders digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Faceposer 2009 (Cory de La Torre) > 2. Re: Faceposer 2009 (Tom Edwards) > 3. Re: Faceposer 2009 (Cory de La Torre) > 4. Re: Faceposer 2009 (Cory de La Torre) > 5. Re: Faceposer 2009 (Tom Edwards) > 6. Re: Faceposer 2009 (Cory de La Torre) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 03:50:21 -0800 > From: Cory de La Torre <gear....@gmail.com> > Subject: [hlcoders] Faceposer 2009 > To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming > <hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com> > Message-ID: > <aanlkti=cul-388r6qebpmltomp9putty5wxyrafej...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Not really sure if this falls under mapping or not, so I threw it in the > coders list. My current problem is extracting phenom extraction. I'm > currently using Tom Edwards "fixed" phonemeextractor.dll. For reasons I > can't seem to understand is during the extraction (after putting in the > sentence for the audio file and clicking ok) faceposer just plain crashes. > I've found it works for other people and sometimes it doesn't, though I seem > to be the in the rare group of people that faceposer just plain crashes on > during the extraction. > > I was following a tutorial earlier that dates back to around 2008.The > tutorial has directed me to go and download the SpeechSDK and install that. > Upon further investigation I've found that under Windows 7 you don't even > need that, and just the fixed dll. After reading some more I've come to > another fork in the road. It seems the only way to get this shit all fixed > up again is to reinstall windows, something I am totally not going to do if > this still doesn't end working. Honestly I shouldn't have to reinstall my > operating system anyways. Thats a severe punishment for this going south. My > question is whether or not installing the SpeechSDk is the reason Faceposer > is crashing at extraction. > > To clarify I've went and uninstalled the SpeechSDK before putting in the > fixed phonemeextractor.dll. > > > Aside all of this madness; whats going on anyways!? I wouldn't have expected > getting faceposer to work would be all this trouble under 2009 on future > operating systems that almost everyone has entirely migrated too. I'm > assuming Valve is at least using some Windows 7 and Vista machines up there, > unless they are seriously using XP to use a "working" faceposer. The fact we > need to use a custom modified dll to get all this working again is pretty > bad. Faceposer should "just work" out of the box, and not require any users > to go searching around for things. Yeah, yeah I know, not in valves current > needs to do (too busy, yadda yadda) but that shit is starting to get real > tiring. I'd like for once to actually be able to use a single Source Engine > tool that isn't made by someone outside of Valve and works/does not require > workarounds. > > -- > Gear Dev > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 12:44:42 +0000 > From: Tom Edwards <cont...@steamreview.org> > Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Faceposer 2009 > To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming > <hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com> > Message-ID: <4d0766ba.4020...@steamreview.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Someone once said they fixed the problem by copying some SAPI-related > DLLs off their Windows install CD. They disappeared without telling > anyone what those files were, unfortunately. > > The SAPI extractor is crumbling away because Valve don't use it. They > have a different extractor built with phoneme middleware that they don't > - I assume - have a distribution license for. > > I went back to the extractor just now to make sure it still works and > found a bug in the error message that appears when extraction totally > fails. Somehow I'd cocked up the process of launching the control panel > app. Fix here: > http://steamreview.org/external/vdc/phonemeextractor_sapi5.4.zip > > On 14/12/2010 11:50, Cory de La Torre wrote: > > Not really sure if this falls under mapping or not, so I threw it in the > > coders list. My current problem is extracting phenom extraction. I'm > > currently using Tom Edwards "fixed" phonemeextractor.dll. For reasons I > > can't seem to understand is during the extraction (after putting in the > > sentence for the audio file and clicking ok) faceposer just plain crashes. > > I've found it works for other people and sometimes it doesn't, though I seem > > to be the in the rare group of people that faceposer just plain crashes on > > during the extraction. > > > > I was following a tutorial earlier that dates back to around 2008.The > > tutorial has directed me to go and download the SpeechSDK and install that. > > Upon further investigation I've found that under Windows 7 you don't even > > need that, and just the fixed dll. After reading some more I've come to > > another fork in the road. It seems the only way to get this shit all fixed > > up again is to reinstall windows, something I am totally not going to do if > > this still doesn't end working. Honestly I shouldn't have to reinstall my > > operating system anyways. Thats a severe punishment for this going south. My > > question is whether or not installing the SpeechSDk is the reason Faceposer > > is crashing at extraction. > > > > To clarify I've went and uninstalled the SpeechSDK before putting in the > > fixed phonemeextractor.dll. > > > > > > Aside all of this madness; whats going on anyways!? I wouldn't have expected > > getting faceposer to work would be all this trouble under 2009 on future > > operating systems that almost everyone has entirely migrated too. I'm > > assuming Valve is at least using some Windows 7 and Vista machines up there, > > unless they are seriously using XP to use a "working" faceposer. The fact we > > need to use a custom modified dll to get all this working again is pretty > > bad. Faceposer should "just work" out of the box, and not require any users > > to go searching around for things. Yeah, yeah I know, not in valves current > > needs to do (too busy, yadda yadda) but that shit is starting to get real > > tiring. I'd like for once to actually be able to use a single Source Engine > > tool that isn't made by someone outside of Valve and works/does not require > > workarounds. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 06:05:07 -0800 > From: Cory de La Torre <gear....@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Faceposer 2009 > To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming > <hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com> > Message-ID: > <aanlktimxcfm3p=1zwp6tzkufuwnincyagtmvavots...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Thanks tom, really appreciate it. I'll go looking for those files, though > might you have any idea which folder they would be located in within the cd > directory? I'm assuming it would be in the root directory of windows though. > > On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 4:44 AM, Tom Edwards <cont...@steamreview.org>wrote: > > > Someone once said they fixed the problem by copying some SAPI-related DLLs > > off their Windows install CD. They disappeared without telling anyone what > > those files were, unfortunately. > > > > The SAPI extractor is crumbling away because Valve don't use it. They have > > a different extractor built with phoneme middleware that they don't - I > > assume - have a distribution license for. > > > > I went back to the extractor just now to make sure it still works and found > > a bug in the error message that appears when extraction totally fails. > > Somehow I'd cocked up the process of launching the control panel app. Fix > > here: http://steamreview.org/external/vdc/phonemeextractor_sapi5.4.zip > > > > > > On 14/12/2010 11:50, Cory de La Torre wrote: > > > >> Not really sure if this falls under mapping or not, so I threw it in the > >> coders list. My current problem is extracting phenom extraction. I'm > >> currently using Tom Edwards "fixed" phonemeextractor.dll. For reasons I > >> can't seem to understand is during the extraction (after putting in the > >> sentence for the audio file and clicking ok) faceposer just plain crashes. > >> I've found it works for other people and sometimes it doesn't, though I > >> seem > >> to be the in the rare group of people that faceposer just plain crashes on > >> during the extraction. > >> > >> I was following a tutorial earlier that dates back to around 2008.The > >> tutorial has directed me to go and download the SpeechSDK and install > >> that. > >> Upon further investigation I've found that under Windows 7 you don't even > >> need that, and just the fixed dll. After reading some more I've come to > >> another fork in the road. It seems the only way to get this shit all fixed > >> up again is to reinstall windows, something I am totally not going to do > >> if > >> this still doesn't end working. Honestly I shouldn't have to reinstall my > >> operating system anyways. Thats a severe punishment for this going south. > >> My > >> question is whether or not installing the SpeechSDk is the reason > >> Faceposer > >> is crashing at extraction. > >> > >> To clarify I've went and uninstalled the SpeechSDK before putting in the > >> fixed phonemeextractor.dll. > >> > >> > >> Aside all of this madness; whats going on anyways!? I wouldn't have > >> expected > >> getting faceposer to work would be all this trouble under 2009 on future > >> operating systems that almost everyone has entirely migrated too. I'm > >> assuming Valve is at least using some Windows 7 and Vista machines up > >> there, > >> unless they are seriously using XP to use a "working" faceposer. The fact > >> we > >> need to use a custom modified dll to get all this working again is pretty > >> bad. Faceposer should "just work" out of the box, and not require any > >> users > >> to go searching around for things. Yeah, yeah I know, not in valves > >> current > >> needs to do (too busy, yadda yadda) but that shit is starting to get real > >> tiring. I'd like for once to actually be able to use a single Source > >> Engine > >> tool that isn't made by someone outside of Valve and works/does not > >> require > >> workarounds. > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > > > -- > Gear Dev > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 06:07:46 -0800 > From: Cory de La Torre <gear....@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Faceposer 2009 > To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming > <hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com> > Message-ID: > <aanlktikwq7xr4+i8pkuwz=sfk3c9j6azcujpj6flk...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Just dropped the new dlls in right now and still getting crashes. Gonna try > looking through my Windows install now. > > On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 6:05 AM, Cory de La Torre <gear....@gmail.com>wrote: > > > Thanks tom, really appreciate it. I'll go looking for those files, though > > might you have any idea which folder they would be located in within the cd > > directory? I'm assuming it would be in the root directory of windows though. > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 4:44 AM, Tom Edwards <cont...@steamreview.org>wrote: > > > >> Someone once said they fixed the problem by copying some SAPI-related DLLs > >> off their Windows install CD. They disappeared without telling anyone what > >> those files were, unfortunately. > >> > >> The SAPI extractor is crumbling away because Valve don't use it. They have > >> a different extractor built with phoneme middleware that they don't - I > >> assume - have a distribution license for. > >> > >> I went back to the extractor just now to make sure it still works and > >> found a bug in the error message that appears when extraction totally > >> fails. > >> Somehow I'd cocked up the process of launching the control panel app. Fix > >> here: http://steamreview.org/external/vdc/phonemeextractor_sapi5.4.zip > >> > >> > >> On 14/12/2010 11:50, Cory de La Torre wrote: > >> > >>> Not really sure if this falls under mapping or not, so I threw it in the > >>> coders list. My current problem is extracting phenom extraction. I'm > >>> currently using Tom Edwards "fixed" phonemeextractor.dll. For reasons I > >>> can't seem to understand is during the extraction (after putting in the > >>> sentence for the audio file and clicking ok) faceposer just plain > >>> crashes. > >>> I've found it works for other people and sometimes it doesn't, though I > >>> seem > >>> to be the in the rare group of people that faceposer just plain crashes > >>> on > >>> during the extraction. > >>> > >>> I was following a tutorial earlier that dates back to around 2008.The > >>> tutorial has directed me to go and download the SpeechSDK and install > >>> that. > >>> Upon further investigation I've found that under Windows 7 you don't even > >>> need that, and just the fixed dll. After reading some more I've come to > >>> another fork in the road. It seems the only way to get this shit all > >>> fixed > >>> up again is to reinstall windows, something I am totally not going to do > >>> if > >>> this still doesn't end working. Honestly I shouldn't have to reinstall my > >>> operating system anyways. Thats a severe punishment for this going south. > >>> My > >>> question is whether or not installing the SpeechSDk is the reason > >>> Faceposer > >>> is crashing at extraction. > >>> > >>> To clarify I've went and uninstalled the SpeechSDK before putting in the > >>> fixed phonemeextractor.dll. > >>> > >>> > >>> Aside all of this madness; whats going on anyways!? I wouldn't have > >>> expected > >>> getting faceposer to work would be all this trouble under 2009 on future > >>> operating systems that almost everyone has entirely migrated too. I'm > >>> assuming Valve is at least using some Windows 7 and Vista machines up > >>> there, > >>> unless they are seriously using XP to use a "working" faceposer. The fact > >>> we > >>> need to use a custom modified dll to get all this working again is pretty > >>> bad. Faceposer should "just work" out of the box, and not require any > >>> users > >>> to go searching around for things. Yeah, yeah I know, not in valves > >>> current > >>> needs to do (too busy, yadda yadda) but that shit is starting to get real > >>> tiring. I'd like for once to actually be able to use a single Source > >>> Engine > >>> tool that isn't made by someone outside of Valve and works/does not > >>> require > >>> workarounds. > >>> > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Gear Dev > > > > > > -- > Gear Dev > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 14:12:42 +0000 > From: Tom Edwards <cont...@steamreview.org> > Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Faceposer 2009 > To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming > <hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com> > Message-ID: <4d077b5a.7080...@steamreview.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > The files are probably in C:\Windows\System32\Speech, but I've no idea > really. > > The new extractor version wasn't meant to fix your problem BTW. ;-) > > On 14/12/2010 2:07, Cory de La Torre wrote: > > Just dropped the new dlls in right now and still getting crashes. Gonna try > > looking through my Windows install now. > > > > On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 6:05 AM, Cory de La Torre<gear....@gmail.com>wrote: > > > >> Thanks tom, really appreciate it. I'll go looking for those files, though > >> might you have any idea which folder they would be located in within the cd > >> directory? I'm assuming it would be in the root directory of windows > >> though. > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 4:44 AM, Tom Edwards<cont...@steamreview.org>wrote: > >> > >>> Someone once said they fixed the problem by copying some SAPI-related DLLs > >>> off their Windows install CD. They disappeared without telling anyone what > >>> those files were, unfortunately. > >>> > >>> The SAPI extractor is crumbling away because Valve don't use it. They have > >>> a different extractor built with phoneme middleware that they don't - I > >>> assume - have a distribution license for. > >>> > >>> I went back to the extractor just now to make sure it still works and > >>> found a bug in the error message that appears when extraction totally > >>> fails. > >>> Somehow I'd cocked up the process of launching the control panel app. Fix > >>> here: http://steamreview.org/external/vdc/phonemeextractor_sapi5.4.zip > >>> > >>> > >>> On 14/12/2010 11:50, Cory de La Torre wrote: > >>> > >>>> Not really sure if this falls under mapping or not, so I threw it in the > >>>> coders list. My current problem is extracting phenom extraction. I'm > >>>> currently using Tom Edwards "fixed" phonemeextractor.dll. For reasons I > >>>> can't seem to understand is during the extraction (after putting in the > >>>> sentence for the audio file and clicking ok) faceposer just plain > >>>> crashes. > >>>> I've found it works for other people and sometimes it doesn't, though I > >>>> seem > >>>> to be the in the rare group of people that faceposer just plain crashes > >>>> on > >>>> during the extraction. > >>>> > >>>> I was following a tutorial earlier that dates back to around 2008.The > >>>> tutorial has directed me to go and download the SpeechSDK and install > >>>> that. > >>>> Upon further investigation I've found that under Windows 7 you don't even > >>>> need that, and just the fixed dll. After reading some more I've come to > >>>> another fork in the road. It seems the only way to get this shit all > >>>> fixed > >>>> up again is to reinstall windows, something I am totally not going to do > >>>> if > >>>> this still doesn't end working. Honestly I shouldn't have to reinstall my > >>>> operating system anyways. Thats a severe punishment for this going south. > >>>> My > >>>> question is whether or not installing the SpeechSDk is the reason > >>>> Faceposer > >>>> is crashing at extraction. > >>>> > >>>> To clarify I've went and uninstalled the SpeechSDK before putting in the > >>>> fixed phonemeextractor.dll. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Aside all of this madness; whats going on anyways!? I wouldn't have > >>>> expected > >>>> getting faceposer to work would be all this trouble under 2009 on future > >>>> operating systems that almost everyone has entirely migrated too. I'm > >>>> assuming Valve is at least using some Windows 7 and Vista machines up > >>>> there, > >>>> unless they are seriously using XP to use a "working" faceposer. The fact > >>>> we > >>>> need to use a custom modified dll to get all this working again is pretty > >>>> bad. Faceposer should "just work" out of the box, and not require any > >>>> users > >>>> to go searching around for things. Yeah, yeah I know, not in valves > >>>> current > >>>> needs to do (too busy, yadda yadda) but that shit is starting to get real > >>>> tiring. I'd like for once to actually be able to use a single Source > >>>> Engine > >>>> tool that isn't made by someone outside of Valve and works/does not > >>>> require > >>>> workarounds. > >>>> > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>> please visit: > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > >>> > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> Gear Dev > >> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 06:31:42 -0800 > From: Cory de La Torre <gear....@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Faceposer 2009 > To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming > <hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com> > Message-ID: > <aanlktikv4wvdmfexodec0pbif4d2wr+bhyvvydth+...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > :(. Well it seems the only option I have is just doing an upgrade install of > Win7 (repair). And seeing if that works. I can't seem to find the dlls > anywhere on the dvd. > > On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 6:12 AM, Tom Edwards <cont...@steamreview.org>wrote: > > > The files are probably in C:\Windows\System32\Speech, but I've no idea > > really. > > > > The new extractor version wasn't meant to fix your problem BTW. ;-) > > > > > > On 14/12/2010 2:07, Cory de La Torre wrote: > > > >> Just dropped the new dlls in right now and still getting crashes. Gonna > >> try > >> looking through my Windows install now. > >> > >> On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 6:05 AM, Cory de La Torre<gear....@gmail.com > >> >wrote: > >> > >> Thanks tom, really appreciate it. I'll go looking for those files, though > >>> might you have any idea which folder they would be located in within the > >>> cd > >>> directory? I'm assuming it would be in the root directory of windows > >>> though. > >>> > >>> > >>> On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 4:44 AM, Tom Edwards<cont...@steamreview.org > >>> >wrote: > >>> > >>> Someone once said they fixed the problem by copying some SAPI-related > >>>> DLLs > >>>> off their Windows install CD. They disappeared without telling anyone > >>>> what > >>>> those files were, unfortunately. > >>>> > >>>> The SAPI extractor is crumbling away because Valve don't use it. They > >>>> have > >>>> a different extractor built with phoneme middleware that they don't - I > >>>> assume - have a distribution license for. > >>>> > >>>> I went back to the extractor just now to make sure it still works and > >>>> found a bug in the error message that appears when extraction totally > >>>> fails. > >>>> Somehow I'd cocked up the process of launching the control panel app. > >>>> Fix > >>>> here: http://steamreview.org/external/vdc/phonemeextractor_sapi5.4.zip > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 14/12/2010 11:50, Cory de La Torre wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Not really sure if this falls under mapping or not, so I threw it in > >>>>> the > >>>>> coders list. My current problem is extracting phenom extraction. I'm > >>>>> currently using Tom Edwards "fixed" phonemeextractor.dll. For reasons I > >>>>> can't seem to understand is during the extraction (after putting in the > >>>>> sentence for the audio file and clicking ok) faceposer just plain > >>>>> crashes. > >>>>> I've found it works for other people and sometimes it doesn't, though I > >>>>> seem > >>>>> to be the in the rare group of people that faceposer just plain crashes > >>>>> on > >>>>> during the extraction. > >>>>> > >>>>> I was following a tutorial earlier that dates back to around 2008.The > >>>>> tutorial has directed me to go and download the SpeechSDK and install > >>>>> that. > >>>>> Upon further investigation I've found that under Windows 7 you don't > >>>>> even > >>>>> need that, and just the fixed dll. After reading some more I've come to > >>>>> another fork in the road. It seems the only way to get this shit all > >>>>> fixed > >>>>> up again is to reinstall windows, something I am totally not going to > >>>>> do > >>>>> if > >>>>> this still doesn't end working. Honestly I shouldn't have to reinstall > >>>>> my > >>>>> operating system anyways. Thats a severe punishment for this going > >>>>> south. > >>>>> My > >>>>> question is whether or not installing the SpeechSDk is the reason > >>>>> Faceposer > >>>>> is crashing at extraction. > >>>>> > >>>>> To clarify I've went and uninstalled the SpeechSDK before putting in > >>>>> the > >>>>> fixed phonemeextractor.dll. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Aside all of this madness; whats going on anyways!? I wouldn't have > >>>>> expected > >>>>> getting faceposer to work would be all this trouble under 2009 on > >>>>> future > >>>>> operating systems that almost everyone has entirely migrated too. I'm > >>>>> assuming Valve is at least using some Windows 7 and Vista machines up > >>>>> there, > >>>>> unless they are seriously using XP to use a "working" faceposer. The > >>>>> fact > >>>>> we > >>>>> need to use a custom modified dll to get all this working again is > >>>>> pretty > >>>>> bad. Faceposer should "just work" out of the box, and not require any > >>>>> users > >>>>> to go searching around for things. Yeah, yeah I know, not in valves > >>>>> current > >>>>> needs to do (too busy, yadda yadda) but that shit is starting to get > >>>>> real > >>>>> tiring. I'd like for once to actually be able to use a single Source > >>>>> Engine > >>>>> tool that isn't made by someone outside of Valve and works/does not > >>>>> require > >>>>> workarounds. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>>> please visit: > >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> -- > >>> Gear Dev > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > > > -- > Gear Dev > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > End of hlcoders Digest, Vol 34, Issue 10 > **************************************** _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
