I agree that they really screwed up on 1108/1.3   My clients are
consistently complaining about different things.  Crashes/lockups I can deal
with but many of them are having problems with WON authentication and CD Key
already in use.  I can't help 'em with that stuff.  We did NOT have the
problems back on 1107 & 1.1.  So as a little test we are all going to go
back to 1107 & 1.1.   We keep asking ourselves why did we upgrade again?
Voice is NOT worth it... still maybe able to pull over the new maps...  So
what else is there?

I can install the full HL on my server but I would rather install just the
ds.  Someone out there still have a copy of 1107 HLDS  that they could FTP
me or give me a link?  I looked around but all I found was 1108.

Thanks,
Admin101

----- Original Message -----
From: HL Server <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2001 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] HL 1108/CS 1.3 quality and player interest?


Have I not been saying this since the update?  Seems to have fallen on deaf
eyes ... Besides the fact that cheating is most assuredly rampant, keeping
the server up for them to cheat on is even tougher ...  The 1108 update saw
the server crashing every couple hours ...  The 1108a update now keeps the
server up for a day or two, but sometimes just hours ...

Cheating is most definitely rampant, and the message from Dan about the
renaming of the file is moot ... HalfLife Hack v1.3 came out 12 hours after
1108 patch, and you need do nothing special to use it ...  PunkBuster is
useless, and it always has been useless ...  HalfLife Hack has ALWAYS
worked against PB and has never been detected ...  I'm sure PB was sent HLH
all the time, but simply couldn't crack it ...

Another thing I find pretty ironic is, if you go to the PB site, the only
game they document to support is HalfLife ...  What are they doing
now?  Also, why turn your back on the sole program you wrote for?  Why not
maintain your "complimentary" relationship with the people that helped you
on your way to your commercial start by nothing but the freest of
support?  Anytime someone said something negative about PB, I was right
there defending it .. Little did I know that it never worked ...  Little
did I know that it only worked on the hacks that came out 2 years ago
...  I was very disappointed ... Shared this information with Deacon and
even showed it to him .. I wondered if this wasn't part of the reason he
dropped out for a while ... (I say a while, cause I assume he'll be back
...)

Anyway, yeah ... my 2� ...  But, if something doesn't change, and soon ...
things are going to change on my game server ...  Unreal Tournament was
real simple to setup, and their anti-cheat guy is real down to earth and
responded about the PB/CS drop and said that he would not be interested in
writing anything for CS ... regardless of how many names signed an
electronic petition ...

At 05:58 PM 10/14/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>These are some of the thoughts and feelings floating around our BfB
>Admin/RCON mailing list.  It seems since 1.3, and PB going south for HL,
>that our pub servers are being overrun with hax.  Anyone on the HLDS list
>feeling this way, or having the same degree of cheater infiltration?:
>
>
>"I agree Robert, 1.3 sucks more than I can express by typing.  This pos
>version makes me so mad 90% of the time I play it I wonder how long I'll
>stay interested in CS.  I never thought I'd really quit (maybe take a break
>here and there, but never quit), but now when I think about it it doesn't
>look so bad.  I've seen quite a few people stop playing since 1.3 came out,
>and I'm wondering if I'm gonna be next on that list.  Who knows..."
>
>
>"Also, ban 46713... Afghan Leader on bfb dc2... Wall hack and all the
>goodies....
>
>And my $.02 - This cs 1.3 update is a REAL FUCKIN BIG DISSAPOINTMENT!!!!
>
>Tried wolfenstein - thought it had a lot of potential... I'll try it again
>later. It appears cs is dead with this update (and PB doin whatever PB is
>doin now...). Totally lost all interest in cs today..."
>
>
>"Code 3 came into BFB2 and had me go check this guy out in one of the DC
>servers.  At the time he was 54-3, and wallhacking and autoshooting like
>crazy."
>
>
>StanTheMan
>TheHardwareFreak
>www.hardwarefreak.devastation.cc
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