Well, most of the time you don't have the actual hackers using these hacks.
Most likely, they're teen punks that are using the hacks and most are
looking to get banned anyway.  It really doesn't matter to them because they
can just go to another server.  They usually stay away from the ones that
they are regulars to though.  Also, keep in mind that older players which
are used to playing in god mode for the lack of skill and/or patience to
play the game normally are also drawn to this hack.  Unfortunately, I know
others that are game playing pre-madonas that are bored with normal gameplay
and end up utilizing various hacks out there.

Either way, I despise the actions from them all.  I'm just glad that these
type of people hang out in the CS and DoD servers more than the TFC servers.
Otherwise, all of my servers would become private to only those with
membership to play which would be the many regulars that do play there.  =\

HoundDawg
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----- Original Message -----
From: "sharon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 5:15 AM
Subject: [hlds] Nextwish demo of hacks


Next wish have a demo on their site of all the most nasty hack yet for cs
and it can be used with any operating system and is just a matter of a
double click.
http://www.nextwish.org/index.shtml#newsitem1003118482,95651,

This is getting bad and I see people droppng cs now because of this.
As a server admin I have seen many using this in the past few days.  They
are of course not very clever to be caught but I shudder to think that there
are clever hackers out there.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul McMurphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2001 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] HL 1108/CS 1.3 quality and player interest?


> I agree that they really screwed up on 1108/1.3   My clients are
> consistently complaining about different things.  Crashes/lockups I can
deal
> with but many of them are having problems with WON authentication and CD
Key
> already in use.  I can't help 'em with that stuff.  We did NOT have the
> problems back on 1107 & 1.1.  So as a little test we are all going to go
> back to 1107 & 1.1.   We keep asking ourselves why did we upgrade again?
> Voice is NOT worth it... still maybe able to pull over the new maps...  So
> what else is there?
>
> I can install the full HL on my server but I would rather install just the
> ds.  Someone out there still have a copy of 1107 HLDS  that they could FTP
> me or give me a link?  I looked around but all I found was 1108.
>
> Thanks,
> Admin101
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: HL Server <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2001 6:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] HL 1108/CS 1.3 quality and player interest?
>
>
> Have I not been saying this since the update?  Seems to have fallen on
deaf
> eyes ... Besides the fact that cheating is most assuredly rampant, keeping
> the server up for them to cheat on is even tougher ...  The 1108 update
saw
> the server crashing every couple hours ...  The 1108a update now keeps the
> server up for a day or two, but sometimes just hours ...
>
> Cheating is most definitely rampant, and the message from Dan about the
> renaming of the file is moot ... HalfLife Hack v1.3 came out 12 hours
after
> 1108 patch, and you need do nothing special to use it ...  PunkBuster is
> useless, and it always has been useless ...  HalfLife Hack has ALWAYS
> worked against PB and has never been detected ...  I'm sure PB was sent
HLH
> all the time, but simply couldn't crack it ...
>
> Another thing I find pretty ironic is, if you go to the PB site, the only
> game they document to support is HalfLife ...  What are they doing
> now?  Also, why turn your back on the sole program you wrote for?  Why not
> maintain your "complimentary" relationship with the people that helped you
> on your way to your commercial start by nothing but the freest of
> support?  Anytime someone said something negative about PB, I was right
> there defending it .. Little did I know that it never worked ...  Little
> did I know that it only worked on the hacks that came out 2 years ago
> ...  I was very disappointed ... Shared this information with Deacon and
> even showed it to him .. I wondered if this wasn't part of the reason he
> dropped out for a while ... (I say a while, cause I assume he'll be back
> ...)
>
> Anyway, yeah ... my 2� ...  But, if something doesn't change, and soon ...
> things are going to change on my game server ...  Unreal Tournament was
> real simple to setup, and their anti-cheat guy is real down to earth and
> responded about the PB/CS drop and said that he would not be interested in
> writing anything for CS ... regardless of how many names signed an
> electronic petition ...
>
> At 05:58 PM 10/14/2001 -0500, you wrote:
> >These are some of the thoughts and feelings floating around our BfB
> >Admin/RCON mailing list.  It seems since 1.3, and PB going south for HL,
> >that our pub servers are being overrun with hax.  Anyone on the HLDS list
> >feeling this way, or having the same degree of cheater infiltration?:
> >
> >
> >"I agree Robert, 1.3 sucks more than I can express by typing.  This pos
> >version makes me so mad 90% of the time I play it I wonder how long I'll
> >stay interested in CS.  I never thought I'd really quit (maybe take a
break
> >here and there, but never quit), but now when I think about it it doesn't
> >look so bad.  I've seen quite a few people stop playing since 1.3 came
out,
> >and I'm wondering if I'm gonna be next on that list.  Who knows..."
> >
> >
> >"Also, ban 46713... Afghan Leader on bfb dc2... Wall hack and all the
> >goodies....
> >
> >And my $.02 - This cs 1.3 update is a REAL FUCKIN BIG DISSAPOINTMENT!!!!
> >
> >Tried wolfenstein - thought it had a lot of potential... I'll try it
again
> >later. It appears cs is dead with this update (and PB doin whatever PB is
> >doin now...). Totally lost all interest in cs today..."
> >
> >
> >"Code 3 came into BFB2 and had me go check this guy out in one of the DC
> >servers.  At the time he was 54-3, and wallhacking and autoshooting like
> >crazy."
> >
> >
> >StanTheMan
> >TheHardwareFreak
> >www.hardwarefreak.devastation.cc
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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