Oyi veh!  I didn't want to start this at all.  Please, if you have 
STRONG feelings of this sort, keep them off the list.

Matt Barnes wrote:

>And so begins...  another exciting episode of....
>
>FLAME WARS 2001!!!!!!
>
>You stoopid insignificant little bug....  you think that M$ runs the world, then go 
>ahead with your cheezy half-assed software that seems to mysteriously 
>contract bugs and attracts virii every growing minute.
>
>Die.
>
>ren
>
>
>On Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:11:26 -0500, Tony Mangialetto wrote:
>
>|Why does it always have to be "M$"  Do you also refer to Bill Gates as
>|"Money" too?  As in, "What up Money!"  I'm so tired of hearing people rip on
>|Microsoft.
>|
>|-----Original Message-----
>|From: HoundDawg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>|Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 2:02 PM
>|To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>|Subject: Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds][OT]
>|
>|
>|LOL, and what makes you think these sites will ever go back to M$
>|technologies?  I've seen more advantages with PHP than ASP will ever hope to
>|reach.  Don't even bring .NET (a.k.a. .EXPLOIT) to the picture.  Fact is, M$
>|technologies cost too much out of the box and you end up with less
>|functionality than other technologies like PHP, JSP, and Java.
>|
>|As for the new XP, unless M$ does something with the spyware and licensing
>|implementations (which is highly doubtful), they're going to lose a large
>|percentage of servers (market share) within the next few years.  We've seen
>|this happen before with great companies such as Lotus.
>|
>|But, if you prefer to stay with M$, good luck to you...
>|
>|HoundDawg
>|http://www.phpGamingSite.com
>|http://www.unitedadmins.com
>|http://www.unitedadmins.com/hlbp
>|----- Original Message -----
>|From: "Kelly Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>|To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>|Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 10:40 AM
>|Subject: [hlds] RE: [hlds][OT]
>|
>|
>|> I love it! I hope you all convert to apache, JSP, and Java.  Its just job
>|> security for me.  The more sites based on this platform means more sites
>|> that I will eventually get to convert to IIS, ASP, and com.
>|>
>|> -----Original Message-----
>|> From: Sysop [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>|> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 10:33 AM
>|> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>|> Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: Timeout During Map Changes
>|>
>|>
>|> Hehe, sounds like we could get a nice little community going....
>|>
>|> Chuck Hays wrote:
>|>
>|> >And I would be more than happy to help lure some of you away from the
>|> >dark side :)  I am by no means an expert, but can help with most
>|> >problems (especially apache/php/mysql).  Let me know if you want to set
>|> >that up!  I'd be happy to contribute.
>|> >
>|> >-Chuck Hays
>|> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>|> >
>|> >On Tue, 2001-10-16 at 10:19, Sysop wrote:
>|> >
>|> >>LOL, why do I feel like the scout?  Running ahead, look guys, it works!
>|> >>and they all come following....
>|> >>
>|> >>Seriously tho, I'd be willing to put up a bbs or mailing list for us
>|> >>winders guys that are trying to make the transition over to the
>|> >>promise/penguin land...
>|> >>
>|> >>On Tue, 2001-10-16 at 08:05, HoundDawg wrote:
>|> >>
>|> >>>Ditto.  In fact, in the e-business arena, there is a stronger movement
>|> with
>|> >>>budgest being allocated for companies to move from w2k + ASP + COM over
>|> to
>|> >>>Linux + PHP/JSP + Java.
>|> >>>
>|> >>>I've already started moving my sites from ASP to PHP on my W2k server.
>|> >>>Also, from SQL Server to MySQL.
>|> >>>
>|> >>>HoundDawg
>|> >>>http://www.phpGamingSite.com
>|> >>>http://www.unitedadmins.com
>|> >>>http://www.unitedadmins.com/hlbp
>|> >>>----- Original Message -----
>|> >>>From: "Stan Hoeppner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>|> >>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>|> >>>Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 7:24 AM
>|> >>>Subject: RE: [hlds] Re: Timeout During Map Changes
>|> >>>
>|> >>>
>|> >>>>><tongue in cheek>  BAH!  Just run Linux/BSD and you don't
>|> >>>>>have to worry
>|> >>>>>about those nasty little worms! </tongue in cheek> (;
>|> >>>>>
>|> >>>>Believe me, I'm wanting to!  Because of MS's new licensing schemes,
>|> along
>|> >>>>with the dreaded "activation requirements", not to mention that every
>|> >>>>release they make has exponentially more holes than the previous, I'm
>|> >>>>sticking with W2K, and NT4, and working on learning Linux...
>|> >>>>
>|> >>>>StanTheMan
>|> >>>>TheHardwareFreak
>|> >>>>www.hardwarefreak.devastation.cc
>|> >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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