Free you say? We geeks on a budget could use some free gear. Could you point us in the right direction, perhaps? :)
----------------------------------------------------- Robert J Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of HL Server Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 12:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds] OT: Microsoft Ops think hard about *nix At 02:23 PM 10/16/2001 -0500, you wrote: >And so begins... another exciting episode of.... FLAME WARS 2001!!!!!! It doesn't have to be a flame war if you consider the benefits of both operating systems ... Either operating systems have their pros and cons ... I know there are benefits to either operating system, and both of them are full of their share of bugs ... Some are more publicized than others ... Such as a car accident in Alaska, or a plane crash in Philadelphia ... Microsoft is the plane crash ... A target cause they're on top whether you like it or not ... Just as there is a "Hackers Guide to Windows 2000", there is a "Hackers Guide to Linux" ... there's the copyright and copyleft issues ... still, full of pros and cons ... My point here is that all software contains bugs ... All systems can contract viruses if the operator isn't educated ... With all of these Code Red and Nimda happenings, I was unaffected because I kept my systems current ... The best thing about Linux/BSD is, it's FREE ... If there remains a "flame war" about "my operating system is better than yours" well then, that's counter-productive and will serve to help no one ... On the other hand, if you remain edumacated on what benefits there are to running either operating system, then you may find yourself in a win win situation ... That's the track I've chosen ... to receive the best of both worlds, I am running both operating systems on my network and there are plans to integrate the two of them using the Linux/BSD side and the Microsoft Interix and Services for Unix ... I received both FREE at the last Web Hoster Program seminar I attended ... Whereas you may feel Microsoft is some huge tyrant, I have found them nothing but helpful in my endeavors ... They gave me a FREE copy of Windows 2000 Advanced Server with 25 CALs, The W2K Resource Kit on CD, the above mentioned *nix software, and free seminars on how to run them ... If you go poking around the Microsoft Web Site, you will find hidden treasures ... But yes, the box on the shelf at the computer store is a very expensive one ... I bought NT4, I bought W2K Server UPGD, I bought MS Office Professional ... This is a lot of money spent ... Keep an open mind, a sense of humor, and you will reap the rewards ... >You stoopid insignificant little bug.... you think that M$ runs the >world, then go ahead with your cheezy half-assed software that seems to >mysteriously >contract bugs and attracts virii every growing minute. > >Die. > >ren > > >On Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:11:26 -0500, Tony Mangialetto wrote: > >|Why does it always have to be "M$" Do you also refer to Bill Gates as >|"Money" too? As in, "What up Money!" I'm so tired of hearing people rip on >|Microsoft. >| >|-----Original Message----- >|From: HoundDawg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >|Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 2:02 PM >|To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >|Subject: Re: [hlds] RE: [hlds][OT] >| >| >|LOL, and what makes you think these sites will ever go back to M$ >|technologies? I've seen more advantages with PHP than ASP will ever hope to >|reach. Don't even bring .NET (a.k.a. .EXPLOIT) to the picture. Fact is, M$ >|technologies cost too much out of the box and you end up with less >|functionality than other technologies like PHP, JSP, and Java. >| >|As for the new XP, unless M$ does something with the spyware and licensing >|implementations (which is highly doubtful), they're going to lose a large >|percentage of servers (market share) within the next few years. We've seen >|this happen before with great companies such as Lotus. >| >|But, if you prefer to stay with M$, good luck to you... >| >|HoundDawg >|http://www.phpGamingSite.com >|http://www.unitedadmins.com >|http://www.unitedadmins.com/hlbp >|----- Original Message ----- >|From: "Kelly Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >|To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >|Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 10:40 AM >|Subject: [hlds] RE: [hlds][OT] >| >| >|> I love it! I hope you all convert to apache, JSP, and Java. Its just job >|> security for me. The more sites based on this platform means more sites >|> that I will eventually get to convert to IIS, ASP, and com. >|> >|> -----Original Message----- >|> From: Sysop [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >|> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 10:33 AM >|> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >|> Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: Timeout During Map Changes >|> >|> >|> Hehe, sounds like we could get a nice little community going.... >|> >|> Chuck Hays wrote: >|> >|> >And I would be more than happy to help lure some of you away from the >|> >dark side :) I am by no means an expert, but can help with most >|> >problems (especially apache/php/mysql). Let me know if you want to set >|> >that up! I'd be happy to contribute. >|> > >|> >-Chuck Hays >|> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >|> > >|> >On Tue, 2001-10-16 at 10:19, Sysop wrote: >|> > >|> >>LOL, why do I feel like the scout? Running ahead, look guys, it works! >|> >>and they all come following.... >|> >> >|> >>Seriously tho, I'd be willing to put up a bbs or mailing list for us >|> >>winders guys that are trying to make the transition over to the >|> >>promise/penguin land... >|> >> >|> >>On Tue, 2001-10-16 at 08:05, HoundDawg wrote: >|> >> >|> >>>Ditto. In fact, in the e-business arena, there is a stronger movement >|> with >|> >>>budgest being allocated for companies to move from w2k + ASP + COM over >|> to >|> >>>Linux + PHP/JSP + Java. >|> >>> >|> >>>I've already started moving my sites from ASP to PHP on my W2k server. >|> >>>Also, from SQL Server to MySQL. >|> >>> >|> >>>HoundDawg >|> >>>http://www.phpGamingSite.com >|> >>>http://www.unitedadmins.com >|> >>>http://www.unitedadmins.com/hlbp >|> >>>----- Original Message ----- >|> >>>From: "Stan Hoeppner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >|> >>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >|> >>>Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 7:24 AM >|> >>>Subject: RE: [hlds] Re: Timeout During Map Changes >|> >>> >|> >>> >|> >>>>><tongue in cheek> BAH! Just run Linux/BSD and you don't >|> >>>>>have to worry >|> >>>>>about those nasty little worms! </tongue in cheek> (; >|> >>>>> >|> >>>>Believe me, I'm wanting to! Because of MS's new licensing schemes, >|> along >|> >>>>with the dreaded "activation requirements", not to mention that every >|> >>>>release they make has exponentially more holes than the previous, I'm >|> >>>>sticking with W2K, and NT4, and working on learning Linux... >|> >>>> >|> >>>>StanTheMan >|> >>>>TheHardwareFreak >|> >>>>www.hardwarefreak.devastation.cc >|> >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >|> >>>>_______________________________________________ >|> >>>>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >|> >>>> >|> >>>please visit: >|> >>> >|> >>>>http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >|> >>>> >|> >>>> >|> >>>_______________________________________________ >|> >>>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >|> please visit: >|> >>>http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >|> >>> >|> >> >|> >> >|> >>_______________________________________________ >|> >>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >|> please visit: >|> >>http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >|> >> >|> > >|> > >|> > >|> >_______________________________________________ >|> >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >|> please visit: >|> >http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >|> > >|> >|> >|> _______________________________________________ >|> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >|> please visit: >|> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >|> _______________________________________________ >|> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >|please visit: >|> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >|> >|> >| >|_______________________________________________ >|To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >|please visit: >|http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >|_______________________________________________ >|To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >please visit: >|http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >| >| > > > >_______________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >please visit: >http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
