I don't joke. It lags a bit, and is steady though. I'll tar an example kit for you guys. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Napier, Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 9:23 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] Windows 2000 or Windows 2003?
> LOL.. you are joking right? > -----Original Message----- > From: James Nine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 9:10 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows 2000 or Windows 2003? > > > I got a hlds server to work through distributed computing via linux. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rob Harwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 5:28 PM > Subject: RE: [hlds] Windows 2000 or Windows 2003? > > > > No, it will share the work between the virtual CPUs, which in theory > > will be slightly slower than using a single CPU but most likely > > unnoticeable. You could however have Windows only allow it to use one of > > the virtual CPUs by setting the process affinity if that is your goal > > (via taskman). > > > > -- Rob. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Fencik > > Sent: 24 June 2004 20:07 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [hlds] Windows 2000 or Windows 2003? > > > > Let me offer a better example. If you have hyperthreading on, hlds will > > be restricted to using half of the processor. For large servers (20+ > > dod playerslots w/addons), the cpu usage will max out for one logical > > cpu while the other remains idle. > > > > Multithreaded or not, hlds suffers from using hyperthreading. > > > > Dave > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Napier, Kevin > > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 2:23 PM > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > Subject: RE: [hlds] Windows 2000 or Windows 2003? > > > > It doesn't always work out that way was my simple point. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: K. Mike Bradley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 1:54 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [hlds] Windows 2000 or Windows 2003? > > > > > > If you have two processors then two threads can simultaneously run ... > > One > > OS and one APP thread. > > It's mo better > > Same I think with HT in a P4 > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Napier, Kevin > > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:36 PM > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > Subject: RE: [hlds] Windows 2000 or Windows 2003? > > > > Last I looked there were 5 on both my boxes. > > > > (that's with a bunch of addons loaded as well which might account for > > the > > other 2, I've never seen the thead count higher then 5 though. But > > simply > > having 5 threads that exist doesn't neceesarrly mean it's going to take > > advatage of MP or HT neccessarly.) > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: K. Mike Bradley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 11:44 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [hlds] Windows 2000 or Windows 2003? > > > > > > Dave, > > When your HLDS.exe is running, > > > > Get a process viewer and you will see more than one thread for the > > HLDS.exe > > process. > > > > Last time I looked I counted three threads when it was fully up. > > > > Anyone else know how many threads? > > Is my memory old? > > > > Besides, there are always OS threads (about a hundred or so) and HT > > would > > still help any box. > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Fencik > > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 10:07 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [hlds] Windows 2000 or Windows 2003? > > > > Hlds is NOT multithreaded and there is NO benefit from running HT with > > it. > > > > Dave > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K. Mike Bradley > > Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 11:35 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [hlds] Windows 2000 or Windows 2003? > > > > Someone just posted an Intel link in this very thread, just a couple of > > days > > ago, which stated "Intel recommends HT be turned off in the bios for w2k > > machines". > > > > I am not that familiar with HT but as I understand it, it was supposed > > to > > replace multi processor (which was popular in Pentium 3). > > > > The Pentium 4 supposedly can not be easily multi processored and a > > departure > > was made from multi P to this HT technique where by a single P4 can > > execute > > multiple threads? > > > > I think this would help any app with more than one thread (which HLDS of > > course has several threads). > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Napier, Kevin > > Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 12:07 AM > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > Subject: RE: [hlds] Windows 2000 or Windows 2003? > > > > Yes service pack 4 did address as I recall one tiny issue with HT. > > win2k however does not take advantage of HT reguardless. I think > > someone > > mentioned that it didn't 'support' it, what they meant was it didn't > > take > > advantage of it, not that there were problems with in on win2k. > > > > Not sure really why we're talking about this as HT doesn't help hlds > > much if > > at all, infact there was some discussion last year on this list that > > seemed > > to indicate it hurt more then helped. (now if your running hlds and many > > other items on the box..yeah it might help you.) > > > > btw intel does not go around telling people to disable HT on win2k > > boxes, > > that's not to say however that in same rare cases it can be benificial, > > such > > as dedicated gaming server systems. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: David Fencik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 8:36 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [hlds] Windows 2000 or Windows 2003? > > > > > > I thought this was addressed in one of the service packs. Why anyone > > would > > want to run hyperthreading for gameservers is a mystery to me. > > > > Dave > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K. Mike Bradley > > Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 10:38 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [hlds] Windows 2000 or Windows 2003? > > > > Intel says to disable HT if u run w2k. There are know issues. The code > > IS > > not optimized for HT ... HT did not exist when w2k was written. > > I had problems with my new dell server running w2k and Dell told me to > > disable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guido > > Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 10:27 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows 2000 or Windows 2003? > > > > In Greg's post it didn't state if Win2kPro supported HT. Does it? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "[YG]Sharza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 8:36 AM > > Subject: SV: [hlds] Windows 2000 or Windows 2003? > > > > > > > > nope, 2k does not support hyperthreading > > > Yes it does, but you would require a version licensed for more > > > processors > > than would make sense > > > comparing cost to performance. > > > > > > > as for whoever said xp for win servers, i would like u to send me > > > > some > > of > > > > that fine jamacian weed you're smoking, cuz im out at the moment. > > > You have no clue what you are talking about, get your knowledge to a > > reasonable level, and point out > > > the facts on which you build your above statement. If not, quit > > > insulting > > people by being > > > "better-knowing" when in fact you are immensely wrong! > > > > > > Stick with Greg's post, as he is right, and everybody stating anything > > else is wrong! Obviously > > > somebody denies the facts in this thread. > > > > > > For my part, it's closed, he's questions have been answered, and again > > this has gone way too far off > > > original topic! > > > > > > L8r, > > > Sharza > > > > > > --- > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > Version: 6.0.706 / Virus Database: 462 - Release Date: 14-06-2004 > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
