If this is true it really could change the face of it. Imagine running huge game, with each server running a portion of the map. You could have a map like Manhattan, or Hollywood with hundreds of players..... I know crazy thought, but so was the light bulb at the time....
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Napier, Kevin Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 9:23 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [hlds] Windows 2000 or Windows 2003? LOL.. you are joking right? -----Original Message----- From: James Nine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 9:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows 2000 or Windows 2003? I got a hlds server to work through distributed computing via linux. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Harwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 5:28 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] Windows 2000 or Windows 2003? > No, it will share the work between the virtual CPUs, which in theory > will be slightly slower than using a single CPU but most likely > unnoticeable. You could however have Windows only allow it to use one > of the virtual CPUs by setting the process affinity if that is your > goal (via taskman). > > -- Rob. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Fencik > Sent: 24 June 2004 20:07 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlds] Windows 2000 or Windows 2003? > > Let me offer a better example. If you have hyperthreading on, hlds > will be restricted to using half of the processor. For large servers > (20+ dod playerslots w/addons), the cpu usage will max out for one > logical cpu while the other remains idle. > > Multithreaded or not, hlds suffers from using hyperthreading. > > Dave > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Napier, Kevin > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 2:23 PM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: [hlds] Windows 2000 or Windows 2003? > > It doesn't always work out that way was my simple point. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: K. Mike Bradley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 1:54 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlds] Windows 2000 or Windows 2003? > > > If you have two processors then two threads can simultaneously run ... > One > OS and one APP thread. > It's mo better > Same I think with HT in a P4 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Napier, Kevin > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:36 PM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: [hlds] Windows 2000 or Windows 2003? > > Last I looked there were 5 on both my boxes. > > (that's with a bunch of addons loaded as well which might account for > the other 2, I've never seen the thead count higher then 5 though. But > simply having 5 threads that exist doesn't neceesarrly mean it's going > to take advatage of MP or HT neccessarly.) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: K. Mike Bradley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 11:44 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlds] Windows 2000 or Windows 2003? > > > Dave, > When your HLDS.exe is running, > > Get a process viewer and you will see more than one thread for the > HLDS.exe process. > > Last time I looked I counted three threads when it was fully up. > > Anyone else know how many threads? > Is my memory old? > > Besides, there are always OS threads (about a hundred or so) and HT > would still help any box. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Fencik > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 10:07 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlds] Windows 2000 or Windows 2003? > > Hlds is NOT multithreaded and there is NO benefit from running HT with > it. > > Dave > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K. Mike > Bradley > Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 11:35 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlds] Windows 2000 or Windows 2003? > > Someone just posted an Intel link in this very thread, just a couple > of days ago, which stated "Intel recommends HT be turned off in the > bios for w2k machines". > > I am not that familiar with HT but as I understand it, it was supposed > to replace multi processor (which was popular in Pentium 3). > > The Pentium 4 supposedly can not be easily multi processored and a > departure was made from multi P to this HT technique where by a single > P4 can execute multiple threads? > > I think this would help any app with more than one thread (which HLDS > of course has several threads). > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Napier, Kevin > Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 12:07 AM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: [hlds] Windows 2000 or Windows 2003? > > Yes service pack 4 did address as I recall one tiny issue with HT. > win2k however does not take advantage of HT reguardless. I think > someone mentioned that it didn't 'support' it, what they meant was it > didn't take advantage of it, not that there were problems with in on > win2k. > > Not sure really why we're talking about this as HT doesn't help hlds > much if at all, infact there was some discussion last year on this > list that seemed to indicate it hurt more then helped. (now if your > running hlds and many other items on the box..yeah it might help you.) > > btw intel does not go around telling people to disable HT on win2k > boxes, that's not to say however that in same rare cases it can be > benificial, such as dedicated gaming server systems. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Fencik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 8:36 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlds] Windows 2000 or Windows 2003? > > > I thought this was addressed in one of the service packs. Why anyone > would > want to run hyperthreading for gameservers is a mystery to me. > > Dave > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K. Mike Bradley > Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 10:38 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlds] Windows 2000 or Windows 2003? > > Intel says to disable HT if u run w2k. There are know issues. The code > IS > not optimized for HT ... HT did not exist when w2k was written. > I had problems with my new dell server running w2k and Dell told me to > disable. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guido > Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 10:27 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows 2000 or Windows 2003? > > In Greg's post it didn't state if Win2kPro supported HT. Does it? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "[YG]Sharza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 8:36 AM > Subject: SV: [hlds] Windows 2000 or Windows 2003? > > > > > nope, 2k does not support hyperthreading > > Yes it does, but you would require a version licensed for more > > processors > than would make sense > > comparing cost to performance. > > > > > as for whoever said xp for win servers, i would like u to send me > > > some > of > > > that fine jamacian weed you're smoking, cuz im out at the moment. > > You have no clue what you are talking about, get your knowledge to a > reasonable level, and point out > > the facts on which you build your above statement. If not, quit > > insulting > people by being > > "better-knowing" when in fact you are immensely wrong! > > > > Stick with Greg's post, as he is right, and everybody stating anything > else is wrong! Obviously > > somebody denies the facts in this thread. > > > > For my part, it's closed, he's questions have been answered, and again > this has gone way too far off > > original topic! > > > > L8r, > > Sharza > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.706 / Virus Database: 462 - Release Date: 14-06-2004 > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
