We think alike ooks, I just dont know why they would bother mentioning it at all if they are not going to provide some context and additional information around that little blurb.
I too am making the assumption that we'll get something like the 30\45day notice on the day hl2 ships, which is fine. Be nice to know what they are thinking even if it's not definate. -----Original Message----- From: Ooks Server [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 10:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] Won 'transition' question. I suspect that it will happen somtime after the sucessfull release of HL2. Which means it may happen towards the end of summer, or might not happen until the end of the year. Anyone betting on a holiday release of HL2, with WON getting shut off a few weeks/months later? It's hard to say - Valve isn't sharing their thinking process or timetable, I think that at this point it's a vague notion that they have that maybe sometime this summer/fall they might shut off WON. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Napier, Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 5:26 AM Subject: RE: [hlds] Won 'transition' question. > Beyond the little burb in the last steam changelog what actual information > has Vavle released about the WON Network termination. > > Specificly, 'end of summer' was mentioned, have there been more specifics > such as an actual date or month set? > > Well we actually be told at least 4-6 weeks ahead of time... or do they just > plan to kill it one day? Yes I know that sounds moronic, but based on past > experiance it's not out of the question. > > Can perhaps someone from Valve comment on this issue, I understand perhaphs > a date may not be set yet if your plans are interrelated with other product > releases but some more information would be helpful. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: James Nine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 7:08 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [hlds] HLDS & Speedtouch modem > > > You were trying to connect to 1.5 won server. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 5:48 PM > Subject: Re: [hlds] HLDS & Speedtouch modem > > > > Cheers man, and you reminded Me there, update!!! Not had the server > running > > 4 ages, surprised to see it filling too as a while back was pretty quiet > > much of the time, today was like the old won days, 20 mins and full server > > :) Makes Me think maybe it IS worth running server still :) > > > > Thanks for all the help you guys, so easy to overlook things, would have > > left it had it not been 4 yas' :) > > > > Steve! > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mike Munoz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 5:29 PM > > Subject: RE: [hlds] HLDS & Speedtouch modem > > > > > > > I was able to add it to my favorites. The average ping to me is 189. I'm > > on > > > dual T1's (3MB) in NYC. > > > I can connect to it, but I get disconnected, Protocol 46 vs protocol 47. > I > > > am using the latest Steam version. There were 11 out of 12 players on at > > the > > > time. > > > > > > > > > Mike ParaDOX Munoz > > > > > > www.paradisesgarage.com > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Steve! [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 5:07 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] HLDS & Speedtouch modem > > > > > > Okay, I can successfully get hlds running using +ip 10.0.0.1 (this > > > machine), however I don't think I'm visible to the outside world with > > this.. > > > > > > I have added NAT for port 27015 udp inside address 10.0.0.1 outside > > > 195.137.39.231 (My internet IP address). Does this sound about right? > > > > > > The modem itself deals with the NAT, the modem's address is 10.0.0.138. > > > > > > Even doing a manual ADD SERVER using 195.137.39.231 just shows not > > > responding, however I can connect and play by adding 10.0.0.1. > > > > > > Anything else I should know? > > > > > > Thanks > > > Steve! > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Alex Brett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 5:36 PM > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] HLDS & Speedtouch modem > > > > > > > > > > How does the modem connect to your computer, you are talking about NAT > > > > etc and mention 10.0.0.1 which makes me think that you effectively > > > > have a private network between your machine and the ADSL device. > > > > > > > > Basically, +ip is used to tell hlds what IP address on the machine to > > > > bind to, so if you put in +ip 195.137.39.231 and that address is not > > > > actually local to the PC, but is the address on the adsl modem/router, > > > > then hlds will complain as it cannot bind a port to that address. If > > > > this is the case then what you do is you set up hlds to bind to your > > > > local ip address (I presume 10.0.0.1), then on your modem/router you > > > > forward port 27015 UDP to 10.0.0.1 - it should then all work. > > > > > > > > Steve! wrote: > > > > > Already done mate: > > > > > > > > > > hlds.exe -game tfc +maxplayers 12 +ip 195.137.39.231 +port > > > 27015 -console > > > > > +map 2fort > > > > > > > > > > However, if I use 10.0.0.1 as the ip, then everything runs fine... > > > > > > > > > > Steve! > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Rob Harwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 3:48 PM > > > > > Subject: RE: [hlds] HLDS & Speedtouch modem > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Doubtful that problem is anything to do with the actual modem, try > > > > >>adding "+ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" on the command line to force it to bind > > > > >>to the correct address. > > > > >> > > > > >>-- Rob > > > > >> > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > > > > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Skirecs > > > > >>Sent: 29 June 2004 13:57 > > > > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >>Subject: Re: [hlds] HLDS & Speedtouch modem > > > > >> > > > > >>Is this a server error? It may not be able to bind to the port, > 27015. > > > > >>----- Original Message ----- > > > > >>From: "Steve!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >>Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 6:07 AM > > > > >>Subject: Re: [hlds] HLDS & Speedtouch modem > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>WAENING: UDP_OpenSocket: port: 27015 bind: WSAEADDRNOTAVAIL > > > > >>> > > > > >>>and yeah I've added the ports in the NAT section, maybe it's the > > > > >>>pure > > > > >> > > > > >>fact > > > > >> > > > > >>>that it uses NAT? > > > > >>> > > > > >>>In any event, certainly not an 'out of the box' job.. > > > > >>> > > > > >>>Steve! > > > > >>> > > > > >>>----- Original Message ----- > > > > >>>From: "Rob Harwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >>>Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 2:51 AM > > > > >>>Subject: RE: [hlds] HLDS & Speedtouch modem > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>No I meant why modem configuration would help, as far as my > > > > >> > > > > >>experience > > > > >> > > > > >>>>goes they run perfectly fine at the specified speed out of the > > > > >>>>box, there isn't anything you can really tweak to improve it. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>-- Rob > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>-----Original Message----- > > > > >>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Skirecs > > > > >>>>Sent: 28 June 2004 18:03 > > > > >>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >>>>Subject: Re: [hlds] HLDS & Speedtouch modem > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>Well if it was a 56k, there would be no chance of a server. > > > > >>>>----- Original Message ----- > > > > >>>>From: "Rob Harwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >>>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >>>>Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 11:08 AM > > > > >>>>Subject: RE: [hlds] HLDS & Speedtouch modem > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>>ADSL - but I fail to see how this would help with HLDS. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>>-----Original Message----- > > > > >>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Skirecs > > > > >>>>>Sent: 28 June 2004 15:50 > > > > >>>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >>>>>Subject: Re: [hlds] HLDS & Speedtouch modem > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>>Is that a modem, as in phone lines? > > > > >>>>>----- Original Message ----- > > > > >>>>>From: "Steve!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >>>>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >>>>>Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 9:40 AM > > > > >>>>>Subject: [hlds] HLDS & Speedtouch modem > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>>>This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > >>>>>>-- > > > > >>>>>>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Anyone had any > > > > >>>>>>success configuring a speedtouch home/pro to work > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>with > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>>hlds? I've tried loads, and given up! But, maybe someone else has > > > > >> > > > > >>been > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>there.... > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>>>Thanks > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>Steve! > > > > >>>>>>-- > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>_______________________________________________ > > > > >>>>>>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>archives, > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>>please visit: > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>>>http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>>_______________________________________________ > > > > >>>>>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > >> > > > > >>archives, > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>please visit: > > > > >>>>>http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>>_______________________________________________ > > > > >>>>>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > >> > > > > >>archives, > > > > >> > > > > >>>>please visit: > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>>http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>_______________________________________________ > > > > >>>>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > >> > > > > >>archives, > > > > >> > > > > >>>>please visit: > > > > >>>>http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>_______________________________________________ > > > > >>>>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > >> > > > > >>archives, > > > > >> > > > > >>>please visit: > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>>_______________________________________________ > > > > >>>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > >>>archives, > > > > >> > > > > >>please visit: > > > > >> > > > > >>>http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>_______________________________________________ > > > > >>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > >>archives, please visit: > > > > >>http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > >> > > > > >>_______________________________________________ > > > > >>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > >>archives, > > > > > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > > > > >>http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > > archives, > > > please visit: > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Alex Brett > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > +44 (0)870 744 2170 > > > > http://www.loho.co.uk/ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
