In my humble opinion Valve goofed majorly when the let Steam incorporate old WON keys. Input old WON key ... output a valid steam ID I am guessing this is how it was compromised.
Throw away all your WON keys ... Soon they will have to start from scratch. Get out yer check books too. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Fencik Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 12:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens Take it easy bud...this is not the end of steam. It may have been hacked, but this is how security evolves. Too bad we couldn't get all of those old pro-WON guys on our side of the fence...maybe they could do some DoS attacks on the mirrors of this exploit...lol. Dave -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray Spaulding Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 11:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens LOL...but STEAM was going to be such an "improvement" to the gaming world...LOL I could use this opportunity to help, if I could, but Valve brought this about when WON seemed a valid option to begin with and broke the golden rule of "if it isn't broke don't fix it" as they've done so many times in the past. I don't remember us having these issues before. Now we have a site up and running on the internet that is EASY to track their hosting source and owner and nobody is doing a damn thing about it. Now THAT'S what I call efficiency of a software company. So many people of professional positions in this list and this has been allowed to continue. That site lists 100,000 hits in one month. GG Valve. Is being cynical in this situation inappropriate? I'm not sure. Flame away if that's your prerogative but I didn't ask for this STEAM garbage, I never thought it was a good idea, I tested the full 10 months and was appalled to see it released to the public and then forced on all of us. But hey, what could we do but go with the flow. Now we have this out. WOW. I'll try to enjoy the game for the last few weeks before this is on a good portion of the kids playing STEAM before the roof falls in on Valve. But you know, really, you get what you deserve in the end and I think that maybe Valve deserved this kick in the ass to SHOW them that they can be wrong and fallible sometimes and that by ignoring the community that GIVES their customers a place to play is just plain STUPID! I've said it over a year ago and I'll say it again, I don't see Valve Software running not ONE server for their customers and never have. WE run those servers and now we have good reason not to anymore. For those of us running servers for the STEAM line of games...may God help us all....because we damn sure know that Valve won't be doing it any time soon. (Based on a long history of dumb decisions) /me makes a mental note to write down amount of servers running STEAM today and reference that number weekly to see how many people stop giving legitimate and these new illegitimate players a place to play. Ray S. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 10:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens Heh, download is going slower than expected, you won't hear results for 12+ hours o.O Stupid 10k/sec downloads. Though, I suppose that's a good thing in a way... - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews Sent: Tuesday, 28 September 2004 12:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens Okay, I have my theory, but I can't test it as the download link is a little odd. http://www.cs-nonsteam.tk/ By visiting the site you get the main idea: "Non Steam:1 Steam: 0 Written by Diesel Power Wednesday, 01 September 2004 Now its possible to play Non Steam in Steam servers, visit forum section and go to tutorial section. Enjoy ;) tks to http://www.nonsteampowered.tk/ Last Updated ( Wednesday, 01 September 2004 )" Many mirrors: http://cs.rin.ru/download-cs16-non-steam-eng.html http://www.cheap.co.uk/download-counter-strike-1.6-non-steam---full-vers ion/ Steam has been well and truly compromised now, assuming these claims are true (I will verify them and report back soon) - For now you will have to ban IP ranges or bans will be useless. I do hope someone at VALVe notices this, and I also hope the people on this list maintain maturity and do not abuse this program - it is illegal after all. - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
