I too call shenanigans, in a big way. Someone has had their ear too close to the AMD Propaganda Loudspeaker. While it's true that on Linux, some test operations are faster on AMD64 in 64 bit mode, on Windows XP they run essentially neck and neck (with some gaming benchmarks being, as I said, slower in 64 bit mode). Here are some tests of AMD64 3500+ in both modes:
http://www.anandtech.com/linux/showdoc.aspx?i=2114&p=3 Essentially, those tests compare the chip against itself, in 32 and 64 bit modes. The flaw with saying that the new 64 bit chips are so much faster is that generally speaking that comparison is of the 64 bit chip in i386 mode versus a straight i386 chip, not the chip in 64 bit mode versus a straight i386 chip as one would expect. AMD64 is not a true 64 bit chip, TBH. Its instruction set is around 80% i386. In the i386-on-i386 comparison by the way, P4 Extreme significantly outperforms AMD64. So, if you're looking to spend all that extra cash, it's better spent on P4EE right now. I've little doubt that over the long run, 64 bit technology will mature into a viable consumer platform. For now, 64 bit is great for corporate/enterprise server and engineering compute environments where it's already been operating for years (HPUX/PA-RISC, Itanium/Itanium2, etc.) For consumers, the usefulness is still years away. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian mu Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 8:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] RE: amd64 cpu compairson (Justin C. Gould) it is shenanegans tbh, but still "significantly" faster tbh, but not that level :). I'd personally estimate at 20% faster. On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 16:09:45 -0700, m0gely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jeromy Statia wrote: > > > You can > > even run 32 bit window on AMD's new chip's and that will run upwards of > > 40-50 times faster than a comperable 32bit chip. > > I call shenanigans. > > > > -- > - m0gely > http://quake2.telestream.com/ > Q2 | Q3A | Counter-strike _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds

