Well Richard, it seems you have missed the point

Valve have a business to run with limited resources that they need to allocate.

What do YOU think would garner them the greatest returns for their
current projects? Another Map? More "features" that tend to break more
things than they fix? An actual working anti-cheat system and security
of their own STEAM system, which is the basis of Valves revenues and
livelihood?

What do you think Richard?
What do any of you think?
Is this an important issue that Valve should be devoting all the
resources it can muster to solve the problems that it currently faces?

As an outsider, it does not seem much of anything has been done other
than to leak reports that something is coming soon (I wonder if that
is human life soon or geological time scale soon, since you never know
with Valve) but still nothing, and previous remarks by Valve on this
and other issues means anything that is said has no credability what
so ever.

Some of you might think I am being self serving, which I admit is
partially true. Not having to put up with cheats or people complaining
about cheats would go a long way to enhancing my online gaming
experience, as both a player and an administrator.

Furthermore I will thank the day Valve prove me wrong and I look like
an idiot who has to eat his words, thus far I've not had to. I really
am hoping that I will have to sooner rather than later, but I am not
optimistic.

Cheers


On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 05:00:35 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time), Richard
Welsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Nothing is easy and fast at the same moment.  One, Valve is busy doing
> valve things.  Two, there are plenty of third party anti-cheats out there.
> Three, VAC will be the end all when Valve is done creating VAC2.0.
>
> Everyone forgets that it takes time to program.  And only a human brain can
> program a program.  Which means Valve is restricted in what it can do.
> Valve also has more than one thing going on... why?  Because they manufactor
> .. programs.  From Scratch.  It took 5 (or so) years to develop The Source
> Engine.  Steam and vac came shortly prior and alot buggier because of the
> lack of time spent between development and release.  They have fixed alot of
> that and are continuing to do what they have spent years doing.  Programming
> things for people.  They have a timeline for everything.  I am sure they are
> doing what they can every working day.  If you losing customers because
> Valve has not fixed something or do something within there idea of when they
> should have because they think it can be done so quick and easily, then I
> have one thing to say about those 'Customers' of yours.
>
> They are undedicated.
>
> Meaning no matter what Valve fixed, added, or stopped those people would
> have cancelled there membership, payments, or whatever anyway.  Maybe not
> right away but it would have been within 6 months.
>
> If you are still complaining please stop... there are hundreds of other
> games out there that you can host for people.
>
> I'd like to see Friends List working properly... That's my #1 priority for
> Valve.  Cheats happen, cheats will always be around.  Why not sue the people
> that have made the cheats... since they are destroying your intelectual
> right to use Valve's Property.  The Cheats are hosted on websites wont be
> hard to find out who has made them... For now til the cheat creators go
> underground again.
>
> Do something constructive instead of crying foul all the time.
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: [email protected]
> Date: 01/25/05 04:28:36
> To: HLDS
> Subject: [hlds] Valve's Business & Cheats
>
> Sometime you have to wonder who is running the show at Valve Software
> these days?
>
> If you were to run a poll on the STEAM Forums, with the following list
> options what do you guys think would garner the most votes?
>
> What should Valves #1 priority be with Source?
>
> More Maps?
> Fix Bugs?
> More Skins?
> Stop Cheats?
> New Features?
>
> Seriously,
>
> What feature does Valve Software think will enable it to sell the most
> games?
>
> What do you as Server Adminsitrators think will attract more players
> to Counter-Strike Source?
>
> What do you as Server Adminsitrators think are the main hindrances for
> adoption by people who don't play the game?
>
> What do you as Server Adminsitrators think is a games impediment to
> longevity for online play?
>
> Answer these questions and if you come up with the answers I do, you
> really have to wonder if anybody at Valve is paying attention.
>
> BTW, do not tell me that VAC or whatever fix is coming "soon"
>
> Every few months we get leaked the same old shit, promising fixes that
> never eventuate, so forgive me if I'm in a, "I'll believe it when I
> see it" mood, since credability and Valve is an oxymoron at this
> stage.
>
> One has to wonder if anybody at Valve cares that this is a majority
> opinion, or if integrity is such a worthless commodity these days, we
> should never believe a word anybody tells us?
>
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