Whisper wrote:

Actually I thought that it was as much a server limitation as it is a
client limitation.

The client only has to receive one set of data and send whatever the
client does, a server has to send "hopefully" identical data to every
player as well as cope with multiple inputs simultaneously

So far I have found that the main problem with large player numbers is
HLDS itself, it just doesn't cope well AND when you do have a lot of
players, as you ought to know from this list, there seems to be some
"feature" that kicks in around the 20 player mark that will cause the
server to lag (not the client) if you set your rates too high, and
this occur no less when the case for using higher maxrates and
maxupdates is greatest due to larger number of changes occuring on the
server simultaneously which is what happens when you have 40 people
all trying to shoot each other at the same time.

Suffice it to say, I've never seen a player to lag a server out, but
on many occasions I have seen servers lag players out and it was not
the players fault, the poor server was just dying in the arse.

On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 11:17:15 -0500, K. Mike Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Each client gets data from the server on every other players position in the
map ... as well as a lot more data about the other player.
Each time you add a player to a game it adds a significant amount of packets
to each and every client.

This is why we almost never see any servers set for more than 40 players.
You have to have a top notch PC and bandwidth for each client to go much
beyond that.




I have tried various player slot configs.
what i have noticed is 24 seems to be the sweet spot for srcds servers.
i don't know what the reason is.
one reason can be the players perception of many slots = lag.
and some maps are small slot count maps.
awp_subzero and  scoutsnknives map servers always fill up when the slot
count is 12 or less.
i set up some 16 and above servers for these maps and nobody ever joined
unless the others were full.

and hl2dm? 8 slot servers fill up as fast as i can turn them on.
unfortunately hl2dm tended to make the cpu go nuts so i stopped running
them.

kinda messes with the idea that we can arrive at some sort of standard
doesn't it.

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