I found a work around for the Bot issues caused by last nights patch.
In the Mani-Admin tool forum, Ace Rimmer suggested using Matties Event
Scripts to delay the start of your bot.cfg file by 5 seconds or so after
the map start:

http://www.mani-admin-plugin.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7985&postdays=0&;
postorder=asc&&start=15

I tried it, restarted the server and it works great.  I don't get the
server/map full issue when it changes to the next map.  My bots and
players can enter the map and play away.  After loading Mattie Event
script onto the server, I added the following line to the bottom of my
server.cfg:  es_delayed 5 exec bot.cfg.  I then restarted the server and
forced a map change.  Works now, not sure why, but it works.  Thanks to
Ace Rimmer for finding a solution.

You can get the event scripts .dll here:
http://www.sourcemod.net/~sourcemod/forums/viewtopic.php?t=908&sid=30ef1
7e16e76c5b62e5e67df31d66bda



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   6. HLSW alpha 1.0.0.42 addresses HL2's new query format (devin812)
   7. Re: problems after last update: server works for one map only
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   8. Re: RE: problems after last update: server works for one map
       only (Roc)
   9. Re: CT Model (Clayton Macleod)
  10. Re: CT Model (Clayton Macleod)
  11. Re: bz2 compression info (Kevin Ottalini)
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  13. Re: RE: problems after last update: server works for one map only
(Whisper)

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Message: 1
From: paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'[email protected]'" <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 01:52:44 +0100
Subject: [hlds] CT Model
Reply-To: [email protected]

Does anyone find the new CT  model a step back about 3 years?


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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 18:13:06 -0700
From: Jeremy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [hlds] CT Model
Reply-To: [email protected]

I think it looks awesome.

On 5/13/05, paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone find the new CT  model a step back about 3 years?
>
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Message: 3
From: "jules \(aka Buddha-Pest\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 18:13:32 -0700
Organization: http://www.beatdown12.com
Subject: [hlds] RE: problems after last update: server works for one map
only
Reply-To: [email protected]

yeah, that did it.  what a mess.  I want my bots back :(  they're the
only ones interested in playing like a team :)

> From: "dexion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: RE: [hlds] problems after last update: server works for one
> map only
> Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 19:40:00 -0400
> Reply-To: [email protected]
>
> turn off bots
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of jules (aka
> Buddha-Pest)
> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 7:32 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [hlds] problems after last update: server works for one map
> only
>
>
> It seems that after the initial map change the server no longer
> accepts
> new players, in fact it gives "server full" messages when i try to add
> bots and players can only connect as spectators.
>
> first map after startup is fine.  it's after the map changes that the
> problems start to occur.  anyone else experience the same problem?



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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 18:27:38 -0700
From: Matthew Welch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [hlds] RE: problems after last update: server works for one
map only
Reply-To: [email protected]

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[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
This is a big problem!!! When I play with bots on my server, it works
for
the starting map but once the second map is loaded, no one can join a
team
because the server says the teams are full. None the of the bots can
join
any of the teams either. I think this is a serious bug from the last
patch.

On 5/13/05, jules (aka Buddha-Pest) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> yeah, that did it. what a mess. I want my bots back :( they're the
> only ones interested in playing like a team :)
>
> > From: "dexion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Subject: RE: [hlds] problems after last update: server works for one
> > map only
> > Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 19:40:00 -0400
> > Reply-To: [email protected]
> >
> > turn off bots
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of jules (aka
> > Buddha-Pest)
> > Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 7:32 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [hlds] problems after last update: server works for one map
> > only
> >
> >
> > It seems that after the initial map change the server no longer
> > accepts
> > new players, in fact it gives "server full" messages when i try to
add
> > bots and players can only connect as spectators.
> >
> > first map after startup is fine. it's after the map changes that the
> > problems start to occur. anyone else experience the same problem?
>
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Message: 5
From: "devin812" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 19:21:29 -0700
Subject: [hlds] Re: hlds digest, Vol 1 #3648 - 12 msgs
Reply-To: [email protected]

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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 12:31:01 -0500
From: Kerry Dorsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:  [email protected]
Subject: Re: [hlds] Counter-Strike: Source Update
Reply-To: [email protected]

HLSW alpha 1.0.0.42 addresses HL2's new query format

http://www.hlsw.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3982


Owen T. Soroke wrote:

>I noticed immediately that HLSW and Psychostats can no longer show live
views of player connections, and I can't seem to pick up a ping from the
server either using HLSW.
>
>Was this release to make some changes to the way the servers work for
tools
such as these?


========================================================================
==
Thanks,

I noticed the same problem this afternoon, then i see this when i get
home..
thanks for the help!!

HLSW problems with latest source update can be solved by visitng this
link:
http://www.hlsw.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3982

Download the latest 1.0.0.42 version of HLSW.



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Message: 6
From: "devin812" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 19:23:25 -0700
Subject: [hlds] HLSW alpha 1.0.0.42 addresses HL2's new query format
Reply-To: [email protected]


> -- __--__--
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 12:31:01 -0500
> From: Kerry Dorsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:  [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Counter-Strike: Source Update
> Reply-To: [email protected]
>
> HLSW alpha 1.0.0.42 addresses HL2's new query format
>
> http://www.hlsw.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3982
>
>
> Owen T. Soroke wrote:
>
> >I noticed immediately that HLSW and Psychostats can no longer show
live
> views of player connections, and I can't seem to pick up a ping from
the
> server either using HLSW.
> >
> >Was this release to make some changes to the way the servers work for
tools
> such as these?
>
>
>
========================================================================
==
 Thanks Kerry,

 I noticed the same problem with HLSW this afternoon, then i saw this
when i
got home..
 thanks for the help!!

 HLSW problems with latest source update can be solved by visiting this
link:

 http://www.hlsw.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3982

 and downloading the latest 1.0.0.42 version of HLSW.

p.s. oops bad subject line in prev message



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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 22:36:54 -0400
From: Roc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:  [email protected]
Subject: Re: [hlds] problems after last update: server works for one map
only
Reply-To: [email protected]

That is not the problem!  The first map runs fine after that the server
is full yet empty and no one can connect


dexion wrote:

>turn off bots
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of jules (aka
>Buddha-Pest)
>Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 7:32 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: [hlds] problems after last update: server works for one map
>only
>
>
>It seems that after the initial map change the server no longer accepts
>new players, in fact it gives "server full" messages when i try to add
>bots and players can only connect as spectators.
>
>first map after startup is fine.  it's after the map changes that the
>problems start to occur.  anyone else experience the same problem?
>
>~j
>
>P.S. Valve folks: are you guys still mailgating
>news://news.buddhapest.com/mirror.* in both directions?  I don't see my
>posts in the newsgroup ending up in the digests but emails from the
list
>ARE ending up on the news server.
>
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 22:38:27 -0400
From: Roc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:  [email protected]
Subject: Re: [hlds] RE: problems after last update: server works for one
map
 only
Reply-To: [email protected]

Agreed, big time problem here guys...... Alfred help!!! :)

Matthew Welch wrote:

>--
>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
>This is a big problem!!! When I play with bots on my server, it works
for
>the starting map but once the second map is loaded, no one can join a
team
>because the server says the teams are full. None the of the bots can
join
>any of the teams either. I think this is a serious bug from the last
patch.
>
>On 5/13/05, jules (aka Buddha-Pest) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>>yeah, that did it. what a mess. I want my bots back :( they're the
>>only ones interested in playing like a team :)
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: "dexion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: <[email protected]>
>>>Subject: RE: [hlds] problems after last update: server works for one
>>>map only
>>>Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 19:40:00 -0400
>>>Reply-To: [email protected]
>>>
>>>turn off bots
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of jules (aka
>>>Buddha-Pest)
>>>Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 7:32 PM
>>>To: [email protected]
>>>Subject: [hlds] problems after last update: server works for one map
>>>only
>>>
>>>
>>>It seems that after the initial map change the server no longer
>>>accepts
>>>new players, in fact it gives "server full" messages when i try to
add
>>>bots and players can only connect as spectators.
>>>
>>>first map after startup is fine. it's after the map changes that the
>>>problems start to occur. anyone else experience the same problem?
>>>
>>>
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>>please visit:
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 20:50:20 -0700
From: Clayton Macleod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [hlds] CT Model
Reply-To: [email protected]

I think it looks like a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle. The torso is way
too thin, from front to back, compared to how wide it is left to
right.

On 5/13/05, Jeremy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think it looks awesome.
>
> On 5/13/05, paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Does anyone find the new CT  model a step back about 3 years?
> >
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 20:50:41 -0700
From: Clayton Macleod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [hlds] CT Model
Reply-To: [email protected]

and weren't we supposed to have two models to choose from for each
time, a total of four models, a REALLY long time ago?

On 5/13/05, Clayton Macleod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think it looks like a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle. The torso is way
> too thin, from front to back, compared to how wide it is left to
> right.
>
> On 5/13/05, Jeremy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I think it looks awesome.
> >
> > On 5/13/05, paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Does anyone find the new CT  model a step back about 3 years?
> > >
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> --
> Clayton Macleod
>


--
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Message: 11
From: "Kevin Ottalini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [hlds] bz2 compression info
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 22:19:59 -0700
Reply-To: [email protected]

I updated my little bzip2 FAQ:

http://home.covad.net/~k25125/Server/ZTMP_Bzip2.htm

qUiCkSiLvEr


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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 02:07:12 -0400
From: WarCry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:  [email protected]
Subject: Re: [hlds] CT Model
Reply-To: [email protected]

I still like the last one we had, just before this update. These are
ugly, I admit they have more detail but there is something about them
that is just ugly.

Clayton Macleod wrote:

>and weren't we supposed to have two models to choose from for each
>time, a total of four models, a REALLY long time ago?
>
>On 5/13/05, Clayton Macleod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>>I think it looks like a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle. The torso is way
>>too thin, from front to back, compared to how wide it is left to
>>right.
>>
>>On 5/13/05, Jeremy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I think it looks awesome.
>>>
>>>On 5/13/05, paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Does anyone find the new CT  model a step back about 3 years?
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>--
>>Clayton Macleod
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 16:32:43 +1000
From: Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [hlds] RE: problems after last update: server works for one
map only
Reply-To: [email protected]

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Nothing wrong with our servers, the same issues that were there before
are
still there now, but for the most part what used to work still works.
 A few small client issues, that are generally resolved with the old
"delete
blob file" solution
 Updating HLSW does wonders too!
 On 5/14/05, Roc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Agreed, big time problem here guys...... Alfred help!!! :)
>
> Matthew Welch wrote:
>
> >--
> >[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> >This is a big problem!!! When I play with bots on my server, it works
for
> >the starting map but once the second map is loaded, no one can join a
> team
> >because the server says the teams are full. None the of the bots can
join
> >any of the teams either. I think this is a serious bug from the last
> patch.
> >
> >On 5/13/05, jules (aka Buddha-Pest) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>yeah, that did it. what a mess. I want my bots back :( they're the
> >>only ones interested in playing like a team :)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>From: "dexion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>To: <[email protected]>
> >>>Subject: RE: [hlds] problems after last update: server works for
one
> >>>map only
> >>>Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 19:40:00 -0400
> >>>Reply-To: [email protected]
> >>>
> >>>turn off bots
> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of jules (aka
> >>>Buddha-Pest)
> >>>Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 7:32 PM
> >>>To: [email protected]
> >>>Subject: [hlds] problems after last update: server works for one
map
> >>>only
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>It seems that after the initial map change the server no longer
> >>>accepts
> >>>new players, in fact it gives "server full" messages when i try to
add
> >>>bots and players can only connect as spectators.
> >>>
> >>>first map after startup is fine. it's after the map changes that
the
> >>>problems start to occur. anyone else experience the same problem?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>_______________________________________________
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archives,
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> >>
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