It's a constant battle to fight this method of IP preferencing but in the
first 5 seconds of your video....long live Dallas Killzone : [RaynServ.Com]

Heh heh

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jordan Barker
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 10:27 AM
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Subject: Re: [hlds] The logic behind steams server browser is incorrect from
eupe.

The IP fanning method in action:
http://pub-i.com/misc/jjb/cs1.wmv (sorry, made this video a while back
and WME's desktop recorder was the only thing handy)

I'm in chicago, basically you see it find a few random servers around
the midwest, and then take a global (minute long) detour pinging servers
in europe/etc to little or no avail, and then finally bring back some of
the nicer datacenter servers in the 2xx. range ...

The speed improves a lot if I restrict the region, but not many think to
do that ...

(To get that ip address field just right click one of the column titles)

I'm not really sure what can be done about this

Encourage clients to set the region filter somehow?
-though I understand the region settings aren't quite fine-grained
enough for some parts of the world.

Apply favortism to known datacenter-owned subnets?
-good for datacenters ..

Randomize it?
-I guess that's somewhat fair ...

Hmm


Ian mu wrote:
> when you do a refresh, right click on a server and view server info
> and check the IP address. Mine are all 81.x.x.x and 82.x.x.x, my IP is
> 81.x.x.x. They "look" as though they are in order of latency, but
> thats not the whole picture.
>
> It's a fairly well known issue, and some ISPs have even been changing
> their ip:ports where possible to get further up the list for more
> people.
>
> Absolutely crazy design that whoever designed should be shot for.
>
> On 7/27/05, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>doesnt with me, just when ever i click on the latency to sort it
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Clayton Macleod" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: <[email protected]>
>>Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:59 PM
>>Subject: Re: [hlds] The logic behind steams server browser is incorrect
from
>>eupe.
>>
>>
>>
>>>um, doesn't it default to sorting by ping/latency? Does here.
>>>
>>>On 7/27/05, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>The logic is incorrect.
>>>>According to alfred, the servers closest to your IP display first.
>>>>For example i have 80.0.0.1, and a server 80.0.0.2 then that server will
>>>>show first.
>>>>Allthought here in most parts of eurpe, client IPs start mostly with
>>>>6x.xx.xx.xx or 8x.xx.xx.xx (8x is most commen).
>>>>But all the data centers server providers have other ranges (mostly
>>>>2xx.xx.xx.xx) Meaning the servers being most close to us, actually dont
>>>>get
>>>>listen on top as they should be (best performance/pings 1st).
>>>>
>>>>Saint K.
>>>>
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