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I feel the same as k2, giving strangers admin on my servers just doesn't
seem like a good way to help alleviate hacking. I am pretty strict on my
admins, first off I have to know them and they must be part of the community
I belong too, then they have to spend time on the server following and
helping with rules, then they get a trial time. If they don't spend a decent
amount of time on the server they get cut so more dedicated people can join.
It sounds harsh but it works, we have a great admin prescence and little to
no hackers. I think the big problem with most servers is they allow friends
and friends of friends to become admins, those people lose interest or
barely play and are never removed or replaced.
 Anyone can be given admin rights but not everyone can be an admin. If you
could form some kind of "Admin" community to where we could all get to know
each other I would be more open to something like this.
 My humble two cents.

 On 9/29/05, Zachary Doherty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I wouldn't call it doomsday, and this is not for me. I already have asked
> 2
> server farms(working on third) and they both said that they would be
> willing
> to commision the idea on their servers. PCGamers is enstating more
> admins(however many join the movement) onto their severs. I am not trying
> to
> help myself, but I am trying to help the community. If you have a server,
> I
> would really appreciate it if you joined the effort to fight off hackers.
>
> On 9/29/05, K2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Zach, have you ever thought of trying to build up your server community,
> > 'hire' on some regs to act as admins so that you have some type of admin
> > presence during the times that people play? I don't have problems with
> > hackers on my servers - when source first went gold and the hacks
> started
> > to
> > come about, yeah we had a rash of hacking going on. We had it under
> > control
> > in about a week. Anyone we missed, at least one or two players would
> make
> > a
> > demo or at the very least get a steamid and sent it our way (we had
> > delayed
> > ban well before Valve/VAC ever did ;-) ). Now? We might see the
> occasional
> > hack once or twice a month or so. And it's dealt with *swiftly*
> >
> > You idea has validity, but really, all it sounds like is that you're
> > under-staffed. If you wanna bring in complete strangers and allow then
> > admin
> > permissions to your game instances, more power to ya. But I'd rather
> hand
> > that out to die-hard regs that I actually get to know first and know
> that
> > they're in it for the good of the community they play with. Making it
> > sound
> > like doomsday has befallen us, heh... I just don't see it.
> >
> > - K2
> > http://www.hardfought.org
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zachary Doherty
> > Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 3:08 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] CS:S Admins, a call to arms!
> >
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> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] My plan is to form a
> > league
> > of admins, so to speak. These admins would be given all powers on all
> > servers that agree to host us. This would give the nonHackers the
> > upperhand
> > on many servers, 2 server farms have agreed with me on this. I simply
> > cannot
> > do it all alone. If there are people who are willing to spend time to
> > bring
> > CounterStrike back to life, to breath life into a dying game, I'm sure
> > there
> > will be many servers that will back you once they catch on to our plan.
> So
> > please, donate some time, save a virtual life or two. Just pitch in,
> > become
> > admin, and make Counter Strikes many servers safer.
> >
> > On 9/29/05, Alex Spencer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Or airsoft, pretty similar, but more realistic guns (unfortunately, is
> > > pretty honour based as for as hits go)
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > >Try scenario paintball. Not much chance for cheating since there are
> > > >referees everywhere.
> > > >And it is so much more realistic when your opponents CAN shoot back!
> > > >;-)
> > > >
> > > >And it will force you to stay in shape too.
> > > >
> > > >I would say it is about equal in expense to a high quality game PC,
> > > >paying for dedicated hosts, etc.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>-------- Original Message --------
> > > >>Subject: [hlds] CS:S Admins, a call to arms!
> > > >>From: Zachary Doherty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>Date: Thu, September 29, 2005 1:50 pm
> > > >>
> > > >>The most played online mod, EVER. And, I think its safe to say that
> > > >>its
> > > also
> > > >>the most hacked game, EVER.
> > > >>It's now the time to save this game from the dark pit of which it
> > > >>has
> > > fallen
> > > >>into. Valve made Half-Life and placed trust in individuals to
> > > >>control servers. Well, it seems that individuals
> > > are
> > > >>not enough. This is a call to arms for all CS:S Admins and Hosts,
> > > >>and rCons. It was our job to protect the
> > > servers,
> > > >>and we clearly have not been
> > > >>doing our job. Now, even hacker-friendly servers exist! This is the
> > > >>call
> > > for
> > > >>all of the CS:S and CS Admins to
> > > >>rally to fight off this menace! I know this may seem a little off
> > > >>topic
> > > for
> > > >>this list, but hey! We are the hosts, admins, and the players. It's
> > > >>time for us to rise up and fight off the pestilence that has
> > > >>manifested within our ranks.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > Zachary Doherty
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