Well, my suggestions were a bit tongue-in-cheek - and your idea of a more polite approach may be better. Perhaps an organized approach to documenting the known issues and suggesting shared priorities to Valve? I agree re: being sensitive to overburdened developers.
Many programmers (sadly, myself included) love to work on new stuff - and few really enjoy "maintenance" - fixing stuff that someone else had all the fun and creative challenge of putting together in the first place. I suspect that this is even more the case in game programming. However, I doubt that it is the developers at Valve whom are setting the priorities. I don't really think we should boycott - but I really would like to see a sort of a "10 issues list" come together and see if we can encourage Valve to work with the server admin community to address them. I am interested in the extent and depth of Valve's commitment to forums such as these. I know that Alfred spends a good deal of effort watching this list and responding to it. (I hope he is enjoying his vacation) But is it a "best effort" thing, on the part of Valve or are they really committed to their partner communities? For example, is someone from Valve watching this list while Alfred is away? My 1.72 cents worth (exchange rate - I'm Canadian) --------------------------------------------------- "Listen to others thoughtfully and reflect on what is said. Concede mistakes gracefully and correct others with humility, not ridicule." - Japanese Proverb -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of leo bounds Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 3:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [hlds] Valve are you listening? I don't see as many serious issues as other people seem to be complaining about. For the most part people are happy with valve games as far as I can tell. I'm glad that the valve team responds fairly quickly to severe game issues so servers do keep up and running. For that other game that someone mentioned that had a successful boycott. That was Call of Duty 2. There was a well publicized protest about lack of anti-cheat in COD2. The company got the message and they plan to release an anti-cheat soon. As far as boycotting Valve I don't think thats going to work and it's not helpful. Instead it would be best to post your issues or bugs in a polite manner instead of the bad attitude too often we see displayed on this list. If I was a software developer overburdened with work I would be more likely to assist people that display some level of maturity. Just my 2 cents. - LB __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds

