This is 100% true (I mean some weirdness in your connection could take CPU away from the game like playing OVER a VPN tunnel)
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Stevens (IAmAI) Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 3:32 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [hlds] Whining or true? > So think about, most of the Lag (or drop in FPS) in the game is caused > by internet by products, slow routers, busy routers and your local > connect setup in the first place. As far as I'm aware, this is strictly false. The raw frame rate (i.e. the number of _frames per second_), it determined entirely by non-network hardware (CPU, graphics adapter, memory, motherboard, etc.) and local configuration/state only. In other words, it is not affected by your network configuration whatsoever. However, of course, one's network connection does affect the overall performance, as in connection problems can cause visual anomalies (players warping, jittery movement, etc), but a player will notice that their measured frame rate (using 'net_graph 3' to view) does not vary. On 19/02/06, Dustin Tuft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You guys can't truely belive that Valve bases all performance on a > single video test? > > There are so many varibales (Hardware, other software demands on your > hardware, networking), sure I can get a 30 second test on just about > any system to put out 60+ FPS (after shuting down just about every > service that is not required), but you have to look past the video > test. When you playing on internet based servers your FPS are effected > by many factors. For instance your ISP method of tranfer from you to > the internet (wireless or wired, T1,DSL or Cable). The distance > between players in a given server, when the server has to wait for > data before it can genrate the next frame so does your client. > > So think about, most of the Lag (or drop in FPS) in the game is caused > by internet by products, slow routers, busy routers and your local > connect setup in the first place. Then muplti that by the number of > players in the server (and lets not forget they have the same changle > as you do getting to a remote server) and boom you have uncontrolable > factors that cause poor output in the game. > > So until the world is running on door to door fiber networks I really > don't see any way Valve can fix a connection based problem. > > Dustin > > >From: "Dan Stevens (IAmAI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [email protected] > >To: [email protected], [email protected] > >Subject: Re: [hlds] Whining or true? > >Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 11:13:45 +0000 > > > > > I think Valve is not sure whether the complaints are real or are > > > from whiners. For example: On the client side the "video test" > > > in CS:S gave me an average FPS of 110, and that data was sent to > > > Valve. But in the real world my system would be unplayable at > > > times. The FPS would drop when all the players were together > > > fighting. So some would complain to Valve about the FPS but Valve > > > had it's data (from the "video test") telling them everyone was getting decent FPS'. > > > >Does anyone think that it might be possible to, via a mod, create a > >custom video test and hack it so sends frame rate report as if it had > >come the official video test. If everyone then used the custom video > >test, Valve may get a more 'accurate' survey of performance. > > > >I'm sending this question to coders list, as I'd guess they'd be more > >likely to know the answer. I hope that doesn't cause any technical > >inconveniences. > > > >On 19/02/06, Brian M Frain (eternal) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > -- > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I think you are > > > right, I mean the general opinion does matter and should > >be > > > considered by the ever churning valve machine but when it all > > > comes down > >to > > > it the fact is your dog is ugly. :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/18/06, DT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I think Valve is not sure whether the complaints are real or are > > > > from whiners. For example: On the client side the "video test" > > > > in CS:S > >gave > > > > me an average FPS of 110, and that data was sent to Valve. But > > > > in the real world my system would be unplayable at times. The > > > > FPS would drop when all the players were together fighting. So > > > > some would complain > >to > > > > Valve about the FPS but Valve had it's data (from the "video > > > > test") telling them everyone was getting decent FPS'. Also, I'm > > > > sure there > >was > > > > a lot of hackers crying to Valve saying they were just good > > > > players > >and > > > > got banned because of their skill. So Valve took the opinion > > > > that > >there > > > > was not that many hacks out there and all complaining were just > > > > whiners. I think that some of the info that Valve got was not > > > > real world experiences and when we complain that are not sure if > > > > it's legit or Whining. So, I would suggest that when you see an > > > > e-mail that you have experienced then to let them know. I > > > > understand how frustrating > >it > > > > can be. I am personally extremely frustrated. So, now I beat my dog. > > > > It's okay cause he's ugly and I think he likes it. ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.11/264 - Release Date: > >2/17/2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > archives, please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, > >please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >archives, please visit: > >http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
