Like I said...tell me your server...Ill come pwn everyone and watch them
call [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I promise it will only be a script (there are many many 
of
them out there).  I bet within 5 minutes of me playing people will be up
in arms.  Were they meant to be changed?  Yes, but not in the manner
they are being done.  By stringing the commands together you are
essentially creating a cheat.  I will NOT post the hacks here as I know
as soon as I do some unscrupulous individuals will use them somewhere
and I do not want to be blamed for it.  There are a ton out there.  Use
google.  You dont have to report back...we all know they are out there
already.

HP

Edward Luna wrote:
Okay... but you can manipulate those same variables by entering them into
the console or putting them in config files that you execute.  Changing
variables that are intended to be changed (or tweaked) cannot be considered
a cheat.

I thought that you might know what this no recoil cheat/script was and could
post it for us to examine but I'll take your advice and Google it.  I'll
report back what I find.

hehehe


-----Original Message-----
From: Brian M Frain (eternal) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 1:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [hlds] Fast Weapon Scripts what to do


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I didn't misunderstand you, I think we are just thinking of scripts in
different ways. You seem to think that all a script does is control
keystrokes but I can write a scripts that changes my view from right to left
hand and it has nothing to do with keystrokes, I am manipulating game
variables.
Controlling the recoil has nothing to do with the server. You should be able
to find one with a quick google search and see what it does. It basically
pulls your gun down as you fire. There is still recoil but it is controlled.
Some say this method isn't very effective but I have seen people run through
a server using this.



On 5/15/06, Edward Luna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Perhaps you misunderstood me... let me rephrase.  Scripts combine
keystrokes
to execute functions and/or commands.  If what you are executing is a
cheat,
then that is not the fault of the script... it's the fault of the cheat.
You have mentioned a no recoil cheat... I'm not familiar with that
particular cheat but I would assume that something as basic as recoil
(which
greatly effects aim) should be under the control of the server.  If it is,
then the server shouldn't allow the recoil to be overridden.  If it's a
function of the client then again, the server should be able to detect the
override and disallow it.

I'm not certain how it could be that combining keystrokes could usurp the
server or client innate recoil function.  I would need to see this alleged
script cheat.


-----Original Message-----
From: Brian M Frain (eternal) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 12:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [hlds] Fast Weapon Scripts what to do


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That statement is just ridiculous, that is like saying guns don't kill
people, people kill people. I couldn't get in a server and use a no recoil
script WITHOUT THE SCRIPT!!!



On 5/15/06, Edward Luna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Lets not confuse a "cheat" which may use a script to work it's evil,

with

the script itself.  A script combines functions bound to keys... it

cannot

execute any command the server admin hasn't allowed.  If someone is

using

scripts to execute cheats, then he is a cheater but the script isn't a
cheat... the script only put the keystrokes together.

Peace...

-----Original Message-----
From: Hell Phoenix [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 10:34 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [hlds] Fast Weapon Scripts what to do


Your kidding right?  I know of a forum dedicated to scripting cheats.
So a no-recoil script isnt hacking?  Whats your server address so I can
come use some scripts on it.  By your definition I am not cheating...Im
just using scripts.

Chris McCoy wrote:

Well, that's great and all... but, "they don't miss opponents?"

Sorry, scripts can't aim at opponents.

You guys make it sound like scripts are the ultimate cheater tools.

Scripts

are nothing more than an extention to a players ability. Scripts help

them

do small things a little bit faster.

Tell me one "cheat" use that a script has, and I'll tell you you're

full

of

it.



Message: 4
Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 13:51:54 +0200
From: "]FUSION[ Gray Death" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:  [email protected]
Subject: [hlds] Fast Weapon Scripts what to do?
Reply-To: [email protected]



So where is the advantage to the script?  None really, beyond

personal

preference.


So you say aimbots are fine? Because they just aim and everyone can

do

this with a mouse? I don't think that. Scripts are better then

humans,

they are faster, they don't miss opponents and they don't miss keys.

With kind regards,
]FUSION[ Gray Death



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