-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] You never buy a game, just a "license" to play it. Well that is how publishers put it now, so I don't think that will work.
On 12/9/06, kyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Someone needs to look over the valve/steam TOS and see if there is a way > they can be sued in order to stop them from being total jackasses and > ruining the games we all paid for months and years ago. > > I mean if we all bought a game and it didn't say in the TOS "in the > future > we will be pumping adds to you in game" , then we all have a possible > lawsuit against Valve/steam if they do this. > > its a form of bait and switch and an annoying one at that. > Now i haven't been reading this entire thread because im just sick and > tired > of hearing people whine about what the latest screw over valve has done to > there customers. but if you really want to stop valve from fucking up the > game or games you have purchased in the past by adding or changing them in > the future, then take them to court or shut the fuck up. > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Dustin Tuft > Date: 12/9/2006 1:11:40 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6 > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > I can see your point, but when was the last time you sat down to play a > board game like Risk only to be interrupted every so often by some guy > trying to get you to buy a chess board? > > The fact is playing a computer game is not the same thing a watching TV, > and > sure I would most likely not go back to rabbit ears, but at least I have a > choice, what Valve is planning is taking the choice away, they all ready > have the money for you game, now they are going to change the rules so > gain > more money. I guess maybe we will have to come up with ValVo so we can > skip > the ads just like our friends at TiVo did, opps that doesn't work so well > with real time gaming huh...And as for blocking, how would anyone planning > on blocking ads sent to the game engine? Last time I checked the program > decided what you see, here is a neat Idea for ya valve, why not have water > mark ads, think of the new ways you can annoy your gaming player pool with > a > Tide water mark over every thing a client see. Or hey why not a little > logo > in the corner like all the Cable Stations load so you know for sure who is > providing you the goods? > > Dustin Tuft > > > > > Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6> From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected]> Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 > 07:28:24 -0500> > "... waffling more than John Kerry." ROFL!> > Okay... > seriously now. I've seen this all before and you guys are 100% correct to > be > concerned but you're also spitting into the wind. The times they are a > changin and in-game adds are comin. To quote a phrase oft used by one > incredibly sexy ex-Borg... "resistance is futile".> > I'm a bit older > then; > well... all of you (hehehe), and I lived through this before. No, not adds > in movie theaters... that was relatively recent... I'm talking about Cable > Television. Back in the dark ages (before computers) there was but a > handful > of channels, available only via "Rabbit Ears" or an antennae on your roof. > Then one day someone mentioned that we would soon be introduced to > something > called Cable Television and that we would have to pay a monthly fee to > watch > TV. The world laughed out loud at such a ridiculous concept... "Pay to > watch > the television I already paid for?... Not on your life"! Or so we > thought.> > > Now don't get me wrong... you can still use an antenna if you want, but > who among us really wants to go back to 7 snowy channels spewing forth the > party line when we can have hundreds of crystal clear channels with > something that fits just about every taste and style?> > Remember... when > your done changing, you're done.> > > -----Original Message-----> From: > [DMA]RocketUSA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 08, > 2006 4:03 PM> To: [email protected]> Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] > VALVe > wants advertisements in CS 1.6> > > IF this all is true, Valve is waffling > more than John Kerry. Think about> this. They disable the content server > loading banner for all of us that> provide servers for this game, AT NO > CHARGE TO THEM, and now they see that> they can make revenue off of not > just > that but IN GAME also so it's o.k.?> > I'm not liking this ride if it's > true > > > -----Original Message-----> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > net> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 1:08 PM> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > com> Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6> > Some > of > you seem to "get it". For the others, corporations are all about> making > money and they will continually try to come up with ways to make> more. As > long as what they do continues to make them money (or in this case> even > more money), they will not change. They would not implement a change> > unless > they believed that their gains (in advertising revenues) would> outweigh > any > losses (in gamers). Alot of people like to play this game and> will > continue > to play no matter what. Most GSP's will continue to host until> they are > no > longer making money. In the end, its a waiting game. Does their> gamble > pay > off or not? Only the players, the GSP's and time will tell.> > Me? I shut > my > server down. Time to move on to another game and see if I can> find some > of > the fun that I use to have playing CS.> > Just my .02> >> > From: Wojciech > H > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > Date: 2006/12/08 Fri AM 11:28:57 CST> > To: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > valvesoftware.com> > Subject: Re: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS > 1 > 6> >> > In game ads have already been done, and Valve is just following > the> > > 'trend' I guess. For instance, BF2142 has in game ads, and a lot of> > > people did not buy the game based on it.> >> > I think some arguments for > having in game advertising is to pay for> > maintaining: the games, the > update system, the many more updates/addons> > that people have started to > expect, the master server lists, etc.> >> >> > Dan E wrote:> > > As far as > region specific, don't you specify what> > > language you speak when you > install Steam?> > >> > > I'm personally ticked off that they want us to > look > at> > > ads in a game which we have already paid for. A demo> > > I can > understand, but this is just rediculous.> > >> > > --- Steven Hartland > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > >> > >> > >> This brings some > interesting questions:> > >> * How are they going the ensure the adds are > region> > >> specific> > >> This is required to ensure that the language > is> > > >> correct and> > >> local laws adhered to.> > >> * How are they going > to > deal with the case that the> > >> ad's> > >> may go against sponsorship > deals for the servers or> > >> tournaments etc.> > >>> > >> Its not going > to > go down well if a Intel sponsored> > >> tourney> > >> started displaying > adds for AMD processors in the> > >> middle> > >> of the match.> > >>> > > >> > By the same reasoning if provider X started> > >> advertising> > >> and > this > where to show up on provider Y's servers> > >> they> > >> would be > understandably pissed.> > >>> > >> These are just two logistical issues > which spring to> > >> mind.> > >>> > >> Steve> > >>> > >>> > >> > ================================================> > >> This e.mail is > private and confidential between> > >> Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person > or > entity to whom> > >> it is addressed. 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