-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I don't think people, and server operators in particular are pissed at Valve in regards to advertising or the concept thereof. Anybody remotely in touch with reality could see this coming a mile away.
I think server operators feel, perhaps legitimately, pissed off by the fact that they saw an opportunity to recoup the costs of providing server hardware, administrating servers and the necessary bandwidth, only to be chopped off at the knees by Valve who then go out and grab the money for themselves, which does seem to stink of that very particular brand of selfish greed that really does piss a lot of people off. What the final result of all this is, can have many and varied possibilities, depending upon whether Valve are doing it to be as greedy as possible, or whether there is some greater overall plan that does make reasonable sense, other than Valve want to make as much money as possible whilst outlaying the least amount of expenditure. I realise this is a rather dessicated view, but it is my bet this is how people feel, and more importantly, this is how people perceive this is what is happening. Cheers Whisper On 12/10/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can ya beat 42?? > > :) > > > > > From: "Edward Luna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: 2006/12/09 Sat AM 06:28:24 CST > > To: <[email protected]> > > Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6 > > > > "... waffling more than John Kerry." ROFL! > > > > Okay... seriously now. I've seen this all before and you guys are 100% > correct to be concerned but you're also spitting into the wind. The times > they are a changin and in-game adds are comin. To quote a phrase oft used > by one incredibly sexy ex-Borg... "resistance is futile". > > > > I'm a bit older then; well... all of you (hehehe), and I lived through > this before. No, not adds in movie theaters... that was relatively > recent... I'm talking about Cable Television. Back in the dark ages (before > computers) there was but a handful of channels, available only via "Rabbit > Ears" or an antennae on your roof. Then one day someone mentioned that we > would soon be introduced to something called Cable Television and that we > would have to pay a monthly fee to watch TV. The world laughed out loud at > such a ridiculous concept... "Pay to watch the television I already paid > for?... Not on your life"! Or so we thought. > > > > Now don't get me wrong... you can still use an antenna if you want, but > who among us really wants to go back to 7 snowy channels spewing forth the > party line when we can have hundreds of crystal clear channels with > something that fits just about every taste and style? > > > > Remember... when your done changing, you're done. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [DMA]RocketUSA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 4:03 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6 > > > > > > IF this all is true, Valve is waffling more than John Kerry. Think about > > this. They disable the content server loading banner for all of us that > > provide servers for this game, AT NO CHARGE TO THEM, and now they see > that > > they can make revenue off of not just that but IN GAME also so it's o.k > .? > > > > I'm not liking this ride if it's true. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 1:08 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6 > > > > Some of you seem to "get it". For the others, corporations are all about > > making money and they will continually try to come up with ways to make > > more. As long as what they do continues to make them money (or in this > case > > even more money), they will not change. They would not implement a > change > > unless they believed that their gains (in advertising revenues) would > > outweigh any losses (in gamers). Alot of people like to play this game > and > > will continue to play no matter what. Most GSP's will continue to host > until > > they are no longer making money. In the end, its a waiting game. Does > their > > gamble pay off or not? Only the players, the GSP's and time will tell. > > > > Me? I shut my server down. Time to move on to another game and see if I > can > > find some of the fun that I use to have playing CS. > > > > Just my .02 > > > > > > From: Wojciech H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Date: 2006/12/08 Fri AM 11:28:57 CST > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] VALVe wants advertisements in CS 1.6 > > > > > > In game ads have already been done, and Valve is just following the > > > 'trend' I guess. For instance, BF2142 has in game ads, and a lot of > > > people did not buy the game based on it. > > > > > > I think some arguments for having in game advertising is to pay for > > > maintaining: the games, the update system, the many more > updates/addons > > > that people have started to expect, the master server lists, etc. > > > > > > > > > Dan E wrote: > > > > As far as region specific, don't you specify what > > > > language you speak when you install Steam? > > > > > > > > I'm personally ticked off that they want us to look at > > > > ads in a game which we have already paid for. A demo > > > > I can understand, but this is just rediculous. > > > > > > > > --- Steven Hartland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> This brings some interesting questions: > > > >> * How are they going the ensure the adds are region > > > >> specific > > > >> This is required to ensure that the language is > > > >> correct and > > > >> local laws adhered to. > > > >> * How are they going to deal with the case that the > > > >> ad's > > > >> may go against sponsorship deals for the servers or > > > >> tournaments etc. > > > >> > > > >> Its not going to go down well if a Intel sponsored > > > >> tourney > > > >> started displaying adds for AMD processors in the > > > >> middle > > > >> of the match. > > > >> > > > >> By the same reasoning if provider X started > > > >> advertising > > > >> and this where to show up on provider Y's servers > > > >> they > > > >> would be understandably pissed. > > > >> > > > >> These are just two logistical issues which spring to > > > >> mind. > > > >> > > > >> Steve > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> ================================================ > > > >> This e.mail is private and confidential between > > > >> Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom > > > >> it is addressed. 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