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No, VAC isn't in place to police your servers real-time. It's in place to
remove
as many hackers as possible, and does this with a delay. Unless you really
really love cheaters, it should be obvious that you would like a cheater to
be
removed from your server after less then a month time, as that's how long it
will take to get him VAC banned (often longer).

As said, removing a player is not "abuse", servers are private property (as
said) which means that you do not have the "right" to be there, you have the
priveledge, and that priveledge can be removed at any time by the owner
of the property (game server admin).
When you connect to a server, you however do not become the server
admin's property, meaning that even though the admin can tell you what to
do to maintain your priveledge to stay, he can not (or should not be able
to)
make you do whatever he wishes, without your consent.

On 12/20/06, Hell Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I mean..why do server ops need kick and ban?  Thats what VAC is for right?
> There arent any asshats or cheaters in our servers.



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> From: Roman Hatsiev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 1:02 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Valve...can we get the connect command for redirect
> in SCRDS?
>
>
> Everyone hate being kicked or banned. I suggest removing kick and
> banid commands from the game. It must be a player's choice whether to
> play on this server, not server operator's. Also kick and ban are
> widely abused by many server operators, we must do something to
> protect players! The freedom of choice for players is everything,
> while server operators deserve no choice at all.
>
> On 20/12/06, Joshua Handelsman-Woolf (DogGunn) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[3]
> wrote:
>
>
> Oh noes, please not the redirect, that annoyed me. I hated being
> switched to another server without actually being given the option.
> john @ GamersCoalition wrote:
>
>
> No reason to be afraid; thanks for the recommendation.
>
> On 12/19/06, Graham Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[4] wrote:
>
>
> "But they might also find it "annoying" to not be able to connect to a
> server showing 20/23
> because of 3 reserve slots."
>
> I'm afraid to say this but you are doing your reserve slot system
> wrong then. You want sv_visiblemaxplayers set to 20
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