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We have a similiar thread going within our community forums.  Some are
very mad, some ambivalent, and some ready to embrace the change.   We
are an older CS 1.6 community that manages to chug along year after year
with dedicated players that love the game, and the sense of belonging to
something they really enjoy.   We have a dedicated admin staff that
outnumbers many workplace supervisory teams.  I pay the monthly
bandwidth bills with my own cash and donations from the folks that love
the game and keep it rolling.   Our folks don't get paid, we spend our
cash maintaining it.  We don't depend on valve for much, VAC is useless,
updates to improve and fix gameplay have been nonexistent for 1.6 for
years.    The number of folks (friends, family, co-workers) that our
community have turned on to buying valve products over the last 8 years
has to number in the 100's if not 1000's of product's sold for Valve.
That is Valve's revenue source, making games.. not promoting non-related
products, IMO.   Now valve will be making us server ops party to being
purveyors for other people's products that we may or may not endorse,
like, nor care about.   We, the server ops, and communities that support
the servers are Valve's endorsers, not Coca-Cola, not Intel, etc....
If the server model originated on Valve owned servers and Valve paid-for
bandwidth, I could see the point.

Oh well, as I tell our community, patience, roll with it and see what
happens.   I have to have faith and trust in Valve to make the right
decisions here, that the program they will implement will not impact
gameplay, will not affect gameplay, will not diminish gameplay.   That's
what we are here for, right, gameplay?   That's the bottom line.   Valve
has something very special in their game model that's not common, folks
that dedicate their own time and resources without (too) much complaint
to make valve's products continue to be viable.  Let's keep that harmony
going.. please.

---daggy

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> I predict this thread will be interesting. :)
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> On 12/8/06, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> interview: advertisements coming to cs
>>
>> In-game advertisements are coming to Counter-Strike 1.6. Go ahead and let
>> that sink in a bit. CS-Nation has the exclusive first interview with
>> Valve's
>> Doug Lombardi about this upcoming addition into the Counter-Strike world.
>>   CS-Nation: Many gamers who play CS 1.6 purchased the retail version. CS:
>> Source was sold as part of the Half-Life 2 package. How do you think
>> gamers
>> who purchase your products will react to in-game ads?
>>
>>   Doug Lombardi: We believe that gamers are going to expect and accept
>> well-done advertising in games. We want to make sure that advertising does
>> not detract from the game experience, so it is our hope that first time
>> Counter-Strike purchasers will consider it simply as part of the game
>> world.
>> There are three information packed pages to this interview. Go ahead and
>> give it a gander and voice your opinions in the comment section.
>>
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>>
>> Hey permanent screw heads. Your going to pay for my fucking server when
>> you
>> put up ads in it? Get bloody real!
>>
>> This SO pisses me off. We do all the fuckin work of hosting YOUR GAME on
>> OUR
>> SERVERS for fucking FREE and you are now going to use it as advertisement
>> base?
>>
>> What the bloody fucking hell is wrong with you people?
>>
>> Forgive me for all the swearing, but i basicly feel like i've been fucked
>> up
>> the ass with a giant baseball batt.
>>
>> We pay the cost for the server hardware, we pay the costs for the bandwith
>> and propper server locations, and your gettin all the money of it?
>>
>> If we put up some ads in our server to help fund it you go all wah wah
>> treadning with lawsuites 'n shit, and now your pulling the very same shit,
>> by putting the ads in, and taking money out of our own hands. Meaning we
>> have to pay even more cause we wont attrackt our own advertisers anymore
>> due
>> to this shit?
>>
>> What a bunch of crap shit this is.
>>
>> Saint K.
>>
>>
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