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Unknown00000000.data was not scanned for viruses because too many nested levels of files were found. For more information on antivirus tips and technology, visit http://ses.symantec.com/ -- Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 12:50:32 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) From: "frag" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore? X-Plaintext: Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Her is the link to Zor's aim bot detect plugin http://www.dodplugins net/forums/showthread.php?t=2&highlight=amx_aimbotdetect And here is the link to the DOD_admin_ESP plugin for detecting wallhackers. http://www.dodplugins.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3&highlight=DOD_admin_ESP I'm pretty sure you can find a version of the DOD_admin_ESP for cs either at amxx or dodplugins.net. When using the DOD_admin_ESP plugin just set it too the minimum settings such as just the "green line". This will make a green line appear from the barrel of the suspected hackers gun to the exact spot were he's aiming. All of the other stuff for the DOD_admin_ESP plugin isn't really that useful and would not be advised to play with it on. & for Roman Hatsiev: Your right, If the hacker has the aimbot configured too just shoot when they hit +attack and they have there bot fov set to 20 degrees or less, Then you may not see very many attacks against cloaked players. But lets think about that statement for a second. How often have you been bumped around by your teammates while running in a big group. This happens so often that eventually you will be walking too close to another player that is getting targeted by the hacker and the hacker is going to kill you instead of his intended target. To really make this tactic useful, Try running around behind a group of your teammates but stay inline with the group. Believe me you will be hit by the hackers weapon enough to get a good idea if it's a hack or not. I had this one hacker kill 5 players in under 4 seconds with a garand because we were all running in a pack. After everyone on the server saw that a lof of players said this player is just not right in amx_chat. The players score was only 69 & 12 which too me isn't that odd, I do that all of the time on in DOD. In any case using both of these plugins when used in conjunction with good admin's and an HLTV client, the hackers really are a thing of the past on my servers. We are now ranked 13th in the USA. I hope I didn't bend all of your ears too much with this long ass post but I thought it might help a few admins. & for ooksserve and Jason :) :) ;) -------Original Message------- From: Jason O. Washburn Date: 4/11/2007 12:33:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore? I sure miss Kyle. I'm sure he would have found this topic interesting ;-) Jason -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of frag Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 2:20 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore? -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] If you don't know your way around explorer then you shouldn't even be running a PC. I have every hack ever made for CS & DOD and I just keep them archived on a separate hard drive in a locked and protected folder. If your not smart and dont know computors then just stay in the dark if you want too. My post was directed at the people that know how to use computors the right way -------Original Message------- From: Chris Barnett Date: 04/10/07 23:05:44 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore? It's not a good idea to install any hacks on your PC no matter how honourable the experiment....you can never tell if you got rid of them or not...so it's too big a gamble the next time you connect to a VAC secured server... -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of frag Sent: 11 April 2007 05:14 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore? -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I can detect an aimbot with 100 % accuracy in any hl1 mod, With a plugin i have running. It's a simple cloaking plugin that makes you invisible to anything but a bot If you use it make sure to remove the ident_icon above your head or your teammates will give you away. They also have an Admin_ESP plugin that lets you see were players are aiming at with tracer beams. Aimbots are almost never used in league though. It's the good player with a simple ESP that you have to watch out for. I would highly recomend you go to an insecure server and have a few really good hacks running play a few rounds with your friends and try to conceil your hack as much as possible then play a few rounds being totally blatent while recording demos. Then put the demos up for review for all of your admins to learn how to better detect hackers. The biggest thing my clan/server has going for it, Is a very large admin presence with veteran players of over 4 years of experience in pubs and league play. there is no replacement for that. There will always be hacks & hackers too use them and valve cannot do anything to stop it EVER. -------Original Message------- From: Adam Sando Date: 04/10/07 17:50:20 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore? The problem we are facing more and more, is that it is becoming almost impossible to distinguish between really good players and hackers/cheaters. Looking at the "features" of the MSX CSS hack, it is designed to be undetected to the trained eye, meaning its potentially undetectable. 2 examples below: * Aimbot. Has 2 settings - League and Rager. Use League for undetected use, and Rager for all out headshots. * Smooth Aiming - For when you dont want people to know your cheating The full list is here: http://www.msxsecurity.com/css.php This will mean that there is a good chance decent/pro players will be banned from public servers, as the admins won't know whether they are cheating or not. The majority of aimbots and aimhacks out there snap instantly to a persons head, and stay locked on. Looking at the demo vids of this hack, it is quite fluid and smooth, and matches the likeliness of what a real player would do with their aiming (i.e.-Never 100% accurate). A close friend of mine has been recently banned for aimbotting even though he had a group of friends with him watching him play - all knowing he doesn't hack. Because of his play style, it must have looked like he was using some sort of hack, when clearly he wasn't. It's situations like the above that will bring down the median skill level of public server play, as all the good players will end up sooner or later being banned for suspected hacking. On a side note, does anyone know how this hack is initiated? Is it some sort of game.dll hook or overlay-type app? Will be interesting to see what Valve have in the works to prevent this sort of hack. Regards, Adam. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Standring // Ex0dUs Sent: Wednesday, 11 April 2007 12:13 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore? Hacks like this have been around since pretty much day one....msx have been running for years....i wouldnt expect any response from valve, there never really has been, its down to server admins to do there jobs... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Spotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 3:09 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore? >I don't play BF2 much - Its the CSS hacks that are bothering me > > Spotta > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Poe > Sent: 10 April 2007 14:58 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [hlds] Is it worth playing anymore? > > You mean the BF2 hacks? > > Spotta wrote: >> This is a multipart message in MIME format. >> -- >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi All >> >> >> >> I've just seen the msx security videos posted on youtube. >> >> Is Valve doing anything to counter this - or should those of us that like > a >> fair game just give up now? >> >> >> >> Spotta >> >> -- >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.0.0/754 - Release Date: 09/04/2007 > 22:59 > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- -- _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
