-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] How does this improve anything at all? The only thing that's changed is removing a perfectly functional feature. How can you honestly consider this a good thing in any way? I could see why they created the need for cl_restrict_server_commands, and hell, I even agreed with them that the cvar was a good thing when they introduced it. This however does not in any way improve security, while it does significantly cripple functionality.
On 4/27/07, Joshua Handelsman-Woolf (DogGunn) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Explain how? You can't even use echo... > > James Gray wrote: > > This quite honestly does not affect many plugins at all...this move is > > much better in the long run for Source. > > > > > > On 4/26/07, Wim Barelds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> -- > >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > >> This is why I never included such a feature into zblock :/ > >> FCVAR_SERVER_CAN_EXECUTE prevented server running command: alias > >> > >> No server plugins cant still execute commands on clients... Atleast, > not > >> properly. > >> To execute a command on a client, that command requires the > >> "FCVAR_SERVER_CAN_EXECUTE" flag, it's very rare for cvars to have > >> this, one > >> of the few examples that does have this is the "play" console command > >> (which > >> plays an audio file). > >> > >> On 4/27/07, Cc2iscooL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > >> > -- > >> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > >> > People kept finding ways to get people to disable it without them > >> actually > >> > wanting to change it themselves, through the MOTD I believe was the > >> most > >> > recent one. They probably just got tired of people exploiting it, > >> so they > >> > decided to hardcode it. Maybe Alfred can shed some light as to the > >> reason, > >> > but a lot of things will be different now. Zblock will probably > >> have to > >> > just > >> > tell the client what to change. > >> > > >> > Heh. > >> > > >> > On 4/26/07, Wim Barelds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > -- > >> > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > >> > > Yup, it means that for some rediculous reason, it's become entirely > >> > > impossible > >> > > to execute commands on clients. Why this is not permitted with the > >> > active > >> > > consent of the end user (as it was previously) is beyond me. > >> > > > >> > > VALVe is completely screwing over a truckload of server plugins > >> because, > >> > > well > >> > > probably because it seemed like more fun then fixing things that > are > >> > > actually > >> > > broken... I really don't see how you can remove a perfectly > >> functional > >> > and > >> > > save > >> > > feature out of the blue. > >> > > > >> > > On 4/26/07, Affordablegameservers.com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > So does that mean it no longer is able to be set to 0 (ie we > >> have no > >> > > > choice > >> > > > now its always on) or that its been removed period so now > >> servers are > >> > > able > >> > > > to run commands on clients (ie plugins will work now without > >> the cvar > >> > > set > >> > > > to > >> > > > 0) > >> > > > thanks > >> > > > dex > >> > > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- > >> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alfred > >> Reynolds > >> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 5:28 PM > >> > > > To: [email protected] > >> > > > Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated > >> server > >> > beta > >> > > > (cl_restrict_server_commands) > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > The restrict cvar has been removed, zBlock needs to be updated. > >> > > > > >> > > > - Alfred > >> > > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- > >> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MaydaX > >> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:12 PM > >> > > > To: [email protected] > >> > > > Subject: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server > >> beta > >> > > > (cl_restrict_server_commands) > >> > > > > >> > > > The cl_restrict_server_commands cvar is not found in the beta > >> version > >> > I > >> > > > get kicked from zBlock enabled servers for not having it set to > 0. > >> > Also > >> > > > server plug ins can exec client commands. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> archives, > >> > > > please visit: > >> > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> archives, > >> > > > please visit: > >> > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> archives, > >> > > > please visit: > >> > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > -- > >> > > ___________________________ > >> > > Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds > >> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > -- > >> > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> archives, > >> > > please visit: > >> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > > > >> > -- > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > >> > please visit: > >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> ___________________________ > >> Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> -- > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> archives, please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- ___________________________ Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
