-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Honestly Chris shut the fuck up. Go circle jerk with your friends. > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected]> Subject: RE: [hlds] Servers that will Valve will randomly remove from the steam master servers, without any annoucment.> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:10:53 +0100> > I suppose you would have to complain to Valve. Tell them you don't like me> and that I'm a very nasty person...well probably a nasty person and ask them> what mood they are in. Because they sure as hell don't listen to reasoned> argument.> > Chris.> > -----Original Message-----> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DontWannaName!> Sent: 15 October 2007 22:21> To: [email protected]> Subject: Re: [hlds] Servers that will Valve will randomly remove from the> steam master servers, without any annoucment.> > --> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]> Is there a voteban option on this mailing list? Lets voteban Chris off this.> > > ----- Original Message ----> From: Chris Barnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: [email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 2:15:12 PM> Subject: RE: [hlds] Servers that will Valve will randomly remove from the> steam master servers, without any annoucment.> > > It's in Valves interest to spoil us by allowing us to serve our gaming> communities with varied and unique servers. Learn the history of the games> and the countless mods that have kept those games alive for years.> > Glad that you acknowledge that we are "all moaning", if a brain donor like> you notices that, then perhaps Valve will.> > :-)> > > -----Original Message-----> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Shelley> Sent: 15 October 2007 21:50> To: [email protected]> Subject: Re: [hlds] Servers that will Valve will randomly remove from the> steam master servers, without any annoucment.> > --> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]> Valve have spoilt you lot in the past by allowing you to customise this that> and the other.> > Now they are preventing x,y and z from happening you're all moaning and> whinning like female dogs.> > Get some f***ing perspective ffs.> > > On 10/15/07, Mike Munoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >> > The Silence from Valve is deafening...> >> >> > Mike ParaDOX> >> > www.paradisesgarage.com> >> >> > -----Original Message-----> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Barnett> > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 3:11 PM> > To: [email protected]> > Subject: RE: [hlds] Servers that will Valve will randomly remove from the> > steam master servers, without any annoucment.> >> > Valve "publicity" ? You mean marketing? Don't tell me that Clown Lombardi> > is> > behind all of this. That man is responsible for the abomination that is> > the> > Steam forums, you know. Where they went out and found the worst trolling> > halfwits the internet has to offer and gave them the keys to the Valve> > forums. The sooner Valve get's shot of Lombardi better.> >> > Chris.> >> >> > -----Original Message-----> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Morton> > Sent: 15 October 2007 19:16> > To: [email protected]> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Servers that will Valve will randomly remove from the> > steam master servers, without any annoucment.> >> >> > > I'm not trying to be rude. It's just that everyday in this community,> > > there is always some joker, who thinks it's big and clever to post up> > > "Quit whinning, XXX isn't what I'm after, I'm alright Jack..yada yada> > > yada"> >> > Fair point :) I share your viewpoint (albeit from the other side) - and I> > did post something like that yesterday :(> >> > > As far as I'm concerned, it might as well be random. No one knew what> > > Valve was going to do then, so what makes you think you know what they> > > are going to do tomorrow, with regards for the "RANDOM REASON" to why> > > they are removing servers from the list?> > I dont think it's fair to hang this up with totally random stuff Valve> > might> > do.. It's not like it was totally unexpected, the hack / mod surfaced,> > people got excited and Valve publicly weren't happy with it. I dont think> > randomly killed is fair - perhaps unexpectedly. They are NOT going to turn> > round tomorrow and kill Eventscripts or MM:S and so on.. (when they get to> > OB source).> >> > > With regards to metamod source. They might not remove metamod servers> > > from the list, but you might find that your server has been removed> > > because Valve didn't like a side effect of a particular metamod> > > plugin. If they don't give us a clue as to what the rules are, then we> > > have to assume that any plugin is a risk.> > Sorry that was a joke - Im not MM:S fan :)> >> > > It doesn't matter how valid anyone thinks any reason the master list> > > removal is. If server admins become scared to install plugins, because> > > they don't know whether that plugin will incur the wrath of valves> > > list server, then why bother writing and installing plugins?> > Yes, and also no. This is 1 thing that has been pulled. If Valve start> > pulling more I will reverse my opinion. But in this case they obviously> > dont> > want 32 man servers and are (regardless of what anyone says) well within> > their right to stop supporting them. Note they are NOT killing the servers> > -> > simply removing them from the lists.... There may still be a deeper reason> > for it to be pulled.> > As a server admin I am not going to be scared to put mods on - and if I do> > and the server disappears from the list I will remove the mods (and> > probably> > bitch to high heaven about it if I feel it is unfair).> > Your right though there are those that will be scared though - should we> > not> > be reassuring them rather than bitching at Valve who are obviously> > deliberately not replying. If they remove more servers - then is the time> > to> > worry IMO and hit them with all the force the community has got.> >> > > If you are happy with running 7 vanilla servers for the next 5 years,> > > good for you. I'm not doing it and there are loads of others who> > > won't. I'll feel sorry for you, when years down the line, they are all> > > broken overnight, because Valve had petty reasons they deemed more> > > important than you and your gaming community.> > I don't see it - there is worry over CSS servers all the time (I have run> > 10> > of those for a long while by the way) - not to the same level agreed - and> > they have not died a major death.> >> > >> > > -----Original Message-----> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Morton> > > Sent: 15 October 2007 18:21> > > To: [email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Servers that will Valve will randomly remove from> > > the steam master servers, without any annoucment.> > >> > > There's no need to be rude or offensive! If this has to be discussed> > > then lets at least do it sensibly.> > >> > > Anyway.....> > >> > > Valve dont appear to be randomly removing servers with mods from the> > > lists, they have apparently removed servers running mods that allow 32> > > players.> > > It> > > occurs to me they must have a reason for this (it is not as if it> > > appears to be a particularly harmful mod).> > >> > > I very much doubt Valve are going to begin to removing servers running> > > any mods they deem unsuitable (MetaMod:Source anyone?? :P). So far> > > there has been no reason for this removal - nothing from Valve. Either> > > they are not going to say anything or there is a reason for the> > > silence. There could still be a very valid reason for removing the 32> > > man capacity! (No one seems to care about that possibility).> > >> > > Either Valve will say something concrete or we will never know. If not> > > being able to run 32 man servers is putting many people off running> > > servers, or if it is killing many communities or if it is putting many> > > players off the game because they can only play with 24 people I have> > > no idea - but I would hazard it is not very many.> > >> > > Lets just face it 32 man servers are gone for the time being - it's> > > not a great thing but there it is. Maybe we should look to getting> > > what we have on offer running stably and get some good mods going :) I> > > have 7 TF2 servers going now (4 for one community 3 for another) and> > > they are all starting to hit their maxes - so it is going well. The> > > 7th server I launched yesterday as the others were getting full.> > > That's working out as better solution for the communities than 6 32> > > man servers actually.> > > Tom> > >> > > --------------------------------------------------> > > From: "Chris Barnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 6:00 PM> > > To: <[email protected]>> > > Subject: RE: [hlds] Servers that will Valve will randomly remove from> > > the steam master servers, without any annoucment.> > >> > >> Oh and Jonathon,> > >>> > >> Hinsight is such a great thing isn't it? Well, we've taken note. When> > >> you're server and you're community is affected by Valves heavy handed> > >> arrogance, we'll mock you like there was no tomorrow.> > >>> > >> You couldn't see that listing update coming and neither could we.> > >> Soooooooooooo.....> > >>> > >> What makes you think your server is going to be immune forever?> > >>> > >> What's that you said? You are going to keeps yours vanilla?> > >>> > >> TF2. R.I.P.> > >>> > >>> > >> Chris.> > >>> > >>> > >> -----Original Message-----> > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan> > >> Leissler> > >> Sent: 15 October 2007 17:33> > >> To: [email protected]> > >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Servers that will Valve will randomly remove from> > >> the steam master servers, without any annoucment.> > >>> > >> I think people just need to grow up.> > >>> > >> Valve intended by design for their to be a 24 player limit. They can> > >> and will do whats in their best interest and/or needs. They never> > >> intended (at this> > >> time) to be above 24 people so they filtered them out.> > >> They have the right to do so.> > >>> > >> Don't like it? Then don't run a server. No one is forcing you to do> > >> anything.> > >>> > >>> > >> --- Kyrios <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > >>> > >>> --> > >>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Supposed to be> > >>> funny ?> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> zzzZZZzzz> > >>>> > >>> On 10/15/07, Chris Barnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > >>> wrote:> > >>> >> > >>> > This is a multipart message in MIME format.> > >>> > --> > >>> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hello,> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> > Let's run a book on which servers Valve will> > >>> randomly filter out next,> > >>> > without even so much as the decency to tell us.> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> > 1) Australian servers. Let's face it, it's> > >>> those pesky Australians> > >>> > who> > >>> > are so far up Valves sweet asses it must be> > >>> embarrassing for Valve. Those> > >>> > Australians need to be taught a lesson to counter> > >>> balance all of that> > >>> > Pacific rimming that's going on.> > >>> >> > >>> > 2) Servers that have an unusually high number> > >>> of players with 8> > >>> > digits.> > >>> > Come on let's face it. The 8 digit crew are all> > >>> noobs, snotty nosed> > >>> > teenagers and haxors.> > >>> >> > >>> > 3) Servers outside the Western United States> > >>> that have an unusually> > >>> > high number of players with 6 digits. If a server> > >>> attracts the old and> > >>> > wise,> > >>> > they're community is going to be too smug.> > >>> >> > >>> > 4) Servers running FF.> > >>> >> > >>> > 5) Servers that sends the player into a> > >>> different world where there> > >>> > is> > >>> > 1000's of custom skins and the admins have been> > >>> sad enough to invest 500> > >>> > odd> > >>> > man hours into creating a work of art, not to> > >>> mention the modding> > >>> > communities whose total output dwarfs anything> > >>> that has come out of Valve.> > >>> >> > >>> > 6) Servers that attract the top players.> > >>> C'mon something has to be> > >>> > wrong, they're all hacking.> > >>> >> > >>> > 7) Servers that attract too many noobs. No> > >>> scrub that, they're all in> > >>> > Washington State.> > >>> >> > >>> > 8) Servers that are running that new plugin,> > >>> which lies about the> > >>> > total> > >>> > number of available slots.there's 32 slots but 24> > >>> are advertised!!!> > >>> >> > >>> > 9) Servers with unsuitable chat language for> > >>> minors.> > >>> >> > >>> > 10) Servers with 2 slots, passworded, that say> > >>> "Valve doesn't listen to> > >>> > server admins" as their server name.> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> > Right. That's my list. Odds anyone?> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> > --> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> > _______________________________________________> > >>> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or> > >>> view the list archives,> > >>> > please visit:> > >>> >> > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds> > >>> >> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> --> > >>> ... black holes are where god divided by zero.> > >>> --> > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________> > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view> > >>> the list archives, please visit:> > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________________________> > >> ________> > >> Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search> > >> that gives answers, not web links.> > >> http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC> > >>> > >> _______________________________________________> > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives,> > >> please visit:> > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds> > >>> > >>> > >> _______________________________________________> > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives,> > >> please visit:> > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds> > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives,> > > please visit:> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds> > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives,> > > please visit:> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds> >> >> > _______________________________________________> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives,> > please visit:> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds> >> >> > _______________________________________________> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives,> > please visit:> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds> >> >> > _______________________________________________> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives,> > please visit:> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds> >> --> > _______________________________________________> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives,> please visit:> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds> > > _______________________________________________> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives,> please visit:> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds> > > > ____________________________________________________________________________> ________> Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail,> news, photos & more.> http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC> --> > _______________________________________________> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives,> please visit:> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds> > > _______________________________________________> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds --
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