It's cracking post. Shame about 99% of it isn't relevant to the issues that we've been discussing for the last 3 days.
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Morton Sent: 17 October 2007 00:25 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [hlds] Valve's Lack of Announcements Good post! Although: > Then you get scripters and 3rd party devs creating mods.... while its > still > in beta!!!! Then they moan when x,y,z happens to break their mod and they > barrage this list with zillions of emails ranting and raving about how > "valve dont care" - OMG...... Please get some perspective here..... Nah they're over in the HLCoders list asking sensible technical questions and getting good support from Valve...... and not ranting... I wonder the real reason Valve hardly ever reply here............ In other news you may be interested in: Mani is back and MAY be working on Mani again.... so we may have an OB Mani sometime in the future.. which might be handy :) http://www.mani-admin-plugin.com discuss?...?...? Tom -------------------------------------------------- From: "Patrick Shelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 12:15 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [hlds] Valve's Lack of Announcements > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Sorry, but i gotta say my piece here..... > > I got 2 servers - 1 UK and 1 USA > > For a start - do you really think the lifespan of this game is just 2 > months > before it gets boring? > > Are you serously say that? Cause if you are - you must have the brain of a > child - nah, thats too kind. The brain of a fish. > > You know what I've decided? I've decided to think this through logically. > And no i'm not a valve fanboy - im normal. > > TF2 has only been released since the 12th of september. To date that is > exactly 5 weeks. > > Up till the 10th of October it was offically beta. In which time they must > have got thousands of bug reports. My guess is that in their offices they > dont have every single variation of PC that is out there. That they > probably developed this game on a very limited selection of PC's and > Servers > with varying hardware and software. > > So, they release beta TF2 - get the feedback and address the most > important > and specific problems. Release updates, the clients install updates - and > problems go away each time this cycle happens. > > The game uses the latest source engine, and combined with the game beta > tag > - its obvious that there are gonna be issues. > > Then you get scripters and 3rd party devs creating mods.... while its > still > in beta!!!! Then they moan when x,y,z happens to break their mod and they > barrage this list with zillions of emails ranting and raving about how > "valve dont care" - OMG...... Please get some perspective here..... > > I'm ditching my servers until valve are happy with their creation - and > we're not getting server updates every other day. > > When their happy and the code works as best as its gonna do on ALL types > of > PC platform - then start making your mods!!!! > > I agree valve should have addressed this sooner - but i suspect the reason > they didnt is because as steam news pointed out "they went away" to have a > break from what they completed. > > So simply put - im waiting until the code is stable and modders could wait > until the code is stable before creating their masterpieces to aviod this > scenario. > > > On 10/16/07, Yo Mama's A Chump <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Valve has never cared about you and never will. Get used to it. >> >> I used to do all that and after fixing the plugins that Valve broke every >> week or so just to keep my server running I gave up. It is still running, >> but I just don't care. They have beaten all the care out of me. >> >> One day Valve will realize that mods and plugins are the only thing that >> keeps the game interesting for the majority of people after a couple of >> months. But on the other hand maybe they want you to get bored so you >> will >> go buy another game next month. >> >> -YMAC > -- > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
