Exactly. It amazes me that the custom tab 'solution' was used over a small edit to the internet tab.
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Timothy L Havener < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why does it have to get so complicated? One tab plus filters, nuff said. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 10:58 AM > Subject: Re: [hlds] Valve,thank you for virtually destroying my TF2 > community. > > > > There is no other solution to this problem other than to add 3 tabs > > (internet, standard, custom) or to go back to one tab with all of the > new > > filters. > > > > Anything else is beating around the bush and not really solving > anything. > > > > This seems to be what a majority of people want. > > > > - voogru. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas Grimm > > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 11:43 AM > > To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Valve, thank you for virtually destroying my TF2 > > community. > > > > like i said in another message: > > > > Remove the custom tab, add the server-tags and the filter-options into > the > > internet tab and everything would be fine. > > with the current system i don't see any sense to add tags into my server > > ... > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Spencer > 'voogru' > > MacDonald > > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 4:26 PM > > To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Valve, thank you for virtually destroying my TF2 > > community. > > > > That'd be fine. > > > > Right under the VAC message. > > > > 'This server is custom and game play may or may not be different'. > > > > It's a good excuse to increase the size of that message and perhaps let > > server operators add a message while they connect to the server. > > > > Because we all know people read the MOTDS... > > > > - voogru. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kitteny Berk > > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 11:17 AM > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Valve, thank you for virtually destroying my TF2 > > community. > > > > I agree with that entirely. > > > > Just adding a checkbox (like in the whole Battlefield, CoD and > > (probably) Quake series of games) would work nicely, it's a method most > > "hardcore" gamers are used to and one that newer gamers should get used > > to, because it's the industry standard. > > > > Hell, even if valve have to add a "this server is using these rules" > > thing to the loading screen, that'd be better than tabs > > > > I'd personally love to be able to add handy info like > > "offensivepissheads;custommaps" to my server without getting bumped over > > to the short bus tab. > > > > LDuke wrote: > >> I'm pretty sure most people who are able to download and install steam > >> are > >> also able to click a check box that has the words "Standard Servers > Only" > >> next to it. Check boxes are a common feature in most applications and > > many > >> web pages. It's not for "hard core gamers" anymore than sending an > email > > is > >> for "hard core communicators." > >> > >> On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Matthew Cheale < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >>> I put that you think one tab is best because it is what you are used > to > >>> and the > >>> idea of two tabs doesn't fit your mental model. I also put that > >>> comprehensive > >>> filtering options are great for your more hardcore gamer but that > gaming > >>> needs > >>> to push out of hardcore alone. By offering simpler systems for people > > who > >>> are > >>> not so technically minded as hardcore gamers helps open up the game to > > the > >>> masses, people who when they first play a game don't want to be > >>> bombarded > >>> with > >>> strange rule x, y and z, get fed up and quit the game. 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