did anyone notice them before the medic stuff was added? trying to find 
a time where they may have started this. if it is a hack its the first 
one i have seen that does all crits and if a exploit might help in 
finding the hole

bl4nkeh wrote:
> Well looks like they were on my servers as well. I didn't hear any 
> reports of them doing anything like this though, but I'll definitely add 
> them to my bans.
>
> John wrote:
>   
>> I've seen guys do this before, wasn't too sure what was going on till now..
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 4:26 AM, Timothy Sadleir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>   
>>     
>>> Same here... Thos SAME EXACT guys.  Got demos of them doing this hack too.
>>> :)
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 6:26 PM, Dog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> We banned those guys a couple of weeks ago for the same thing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2008/6/1 Tom Leighton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>>
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>> I popped him an email anyway, but the link i have seems to have been
>>>>> already patched...
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe theres a new one out that isnt listed :S
>>>>>
>>>>> SakeFox wrote:
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>>>> I believe Alfred Reynolds is one of the people deals with the
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>> exploits,
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> is there any dead give aways to look for if a person is going to do
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>> this
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>>> exploit? Would be good to know what to look for when people are
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>> trying
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>> to do this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom Leighton wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> I have a link to a howto on this, who do i need to send it to at
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>> Valve?
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>>>> SakeFox wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> i intended to add them in the email, but forgot. there was two
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> STEAM_0:0:1845101 - JUST SET IT AND FORGET IT, set it and forget
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>> it,
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>> F10
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>> for crits
>>>>>>>> STEAM_0:1:2630 - fire n forget
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Patrick Shelley wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> WOW - thats sick - and not the good sick......
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Blus couldnt even get out - whats the guys steam id and i'll add
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>> him
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>> to our
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>> ban list....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 6/1/08, SakeFox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>> Just seen this on our servers and was the first we seen of it and
>>>>>>>>>> thought would pass it on.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> it seems its possible now for players to have perma crits without
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>> a
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>> medic. not sure how its done and if its a hack or exploit, but
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>> non
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>> the
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>> less there able to do it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> link for demo of player doing it.
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.kingdomsend.com/files/allcrits.7z
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