Dan - hilarious! No, really, I mean that.....yawn ;)

hwkiller - Are you taking the p**s !!

I'm pretty good with the english language - and as far as i can gather from
my own post i'm not laying blame at anyone's door. I think my post makes
that pretty clear.

As per the purpose of this list - amongst other purposes - i'm simply
passing on vulnerabilities that occur. Please dont insult me by trying to
think for me.

Why would valve go to all this trouble - creating new models, new code, new
this, new that - only to allow someone playing on their local machine within
2 hours to 'achieve' 22 our of 38 achievements WITHOUT coming into contact
with a real player in the real world?

In effect - it just puts their hard work to waste imho.

All they have to do is write some code that stops achievements being
recognised on bots and/or on a local machine. Then it FORCES
cheaters/exploiters to achieve them in the way they were meant.

Sure you can lock your server down, grab a few mates and stat pad it out - i
dont think you could stop that. But really and truly, these updates takes a
lot of thought, work and testing before we get it. Why would they allow it
to be so easy? I say its an oversight. Blame is too strong a word in this
scenario.

WTF do u mean it not like its a challenge? Of course it is supposed to be a
challenge!!!  I cant believe you said that. But u did - and its there for
the world to see. If i can get 22 out of 38 in 2 hours using bots and my
machine - then its a waste of the programmers time and skill.


On 6/20/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Are you blaming valve for your using bots to gain achievements? Seriously?
> That makes no sense. Someone in the forum said that as well... they said
> valve made it "too easy to gain achievements using bots" which is just
> ridiculous. It's not like it's a challenge, it's just not getting it in the
> way that is intended. Not valve's fault I'd say.  Most of these you can get
> in normal play, so I see no reason to farm them out.
>
> Alt-fire means alternative firing mode... which is rightclick by default I
> believe.
>
>
>
> > Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:58:36 +0100> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:
> [email protected]> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update
> Released> > OK - yes, great update. Good work Valve!> > But, I've managed to
> get 20 out of the 38 achievemnts on my local machine> using bots of
> different classes, using mimic aswell. I have written about> this before.> >
> I would have another 5 if i knew what alt-fire is!> > What is alt-fire?>
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