i would have to disagree.

you already have the fist taunt that actually has some range on the 
kill. another kill taunt would be to much. with the slow down i think 
its quite balanced. It slows people enough with out being over powered. 
i think if it froze them in place then it would be a issue.

David wrote:
> Although i must suggest having the sandvich's taunt to be something 
> awesome..like he can throw it at someone and kill them. that 
> would be a cool taunt. throws it like 200mph or sometin. not the same move as 
> when he attacks at least..
>
> Natasha i dont like much...it only slows em down for like .1 of a second :/
>
> would be awesome if it froze them for .1 seconds or w/e so they can become a 
> target for someone without such a large spray.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 01:43:44 +0200
> From: Flubber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [hlds] A Heavy Update
> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list"
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> Clearly there must be a command line option to call a specific one for a
> server, can't you valve release all info for once?
>
> 2008/8/20 chillicane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>   
>> theres a new config file in cfg called config_arena.cfg
>>
>> this sets the server name to that.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 7:43 AM, steve grout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> wtf
>>>
>>> cant change server name away from Team Fortress 2 Arena Server
>>>
>>>
>>> Spencer wrote:
>>>       
>>>> They just corrected it.. lmao
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Patrick O <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>         
>> wrote:
>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> There appears to be a spelling mistake on
>>>>> http://www.steampowered.com/tf2/heavy/images/06_sandvich.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> @Cheese and dairy group
>>>>> +20 HEATLH
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this intended?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Jonah Hirsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Good! This is my reason for getting at least 10 achievements. The
>>>>>>             
>> other
>>     
>>>>>> two didn't do it for me, and I never use the HWG shotgun anyway. I
>>>>>> wonder what the taunt will be. :P
>>>>>>
>>>>>> bl4nkeh wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> Sandvich!
>>>>>>> http://www.steampowered.com/tf2/heavy/sandvich.htm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fudgstu wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> Thank you Jason for giving us an idea of the approx. time
>>>>>>>> Blood, I think he means the update will be released hopefully at
>>>>>>>>                 
>>> 2:30pm
>>>       
>>>>> PDT.
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Blood Letter <
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> I'm in a meeting from 2-3.  Excellent.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I will inform my subordinates that they are now responsible.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (Or, did he mean he would post with an update on timing at 2:30?)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:37:39 +0000
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] A Heavy Update
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Well since that is only 3 hours away are you going to put the 6th
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>> thing
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>> on the Heavy Update website so we can have some preview of it to
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>> keep
>>>       
>>>>> us
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>> drooling.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>> -VM
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:31:22 -0700> From:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected];
>>>>>>>>>                   
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>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] A Heavy Update> > And it is going to happen
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>> today.
>>>       
>>>>>>>>> Hopefully around 2:30 PM PDT.> > Jason> > -----Original
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>> Message----->
>>>       
>>>>> From:
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto:
>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keeper> Sent:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>> Tuesday,
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>> August 19, 2008 10:51 AM> To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>> mailing
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>> list'> Subject: Re: [hlds] A Heavy Update> > There have been many
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>> posts by
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>> Alfred, Mike, Jason, and Eric.> > Jason usually tells us that it's
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>> going to
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>> happen soon, so when you see> his> post you know you have a couple
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>> of
>>>       
>>>>> hours
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>> at most to finish your sammich.> > No worries :)> > Keeper> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>> -----Original
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>> Message-----> From: Leonard L. Church [mailto:
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:46 PM> To: Half-Life dedicated
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>>>>>>>>> mailing list> Subject: Re: [hlds] A Heavy Update> > Just
>>>>>>>>>                   
>> curious..>
>>     
>>>>> Has
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>> anyone from Valve EVER posted to this list except to tell us an >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>> update is
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>> coming? I mean, has there ever been any 2 way communication > from
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>> them to
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>> us? I don't recall ever seeing it if so.> > > >
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:50:06 -0600
> From: "Patrick O" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [hlds] A Heavy Update
> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list"
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> It's not a command line option, afaik. The option to use arena mode is
> probably within each map itself, or perhaps changing the map to an
> "arena_" map causes the server to switch to "arena mode" and use the
> arena mapcycle as well as the arena_config.cfg
>
> Patrick
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Flubber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Clearly there must be a command line option to call a specific one for a
>> server, can't you valve release all info for once?
>>
>> 2008/8/20 chillicane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>     
>>> theres a new config file in cfg called config_arena.cfg
>>>
>>> this sets the server name to that.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 7:43 AM, steve grout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> wtf
>>>>
>>>> cant change server name away from Team Fortress 2 Arena Server
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Spencer wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> They just corrected it.. lmao
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Patrick O <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>           
>>> wrote:
>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>> There appears to be a spelling mistake on
>>>>>> http://www.steampowered.com/tf2/heavy/images/06_sandvich.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @Cheese and dairy group
>>>>>> +20 HEATLH
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is this intended?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Jonah Hirsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> Good! This is my reason for getting at least 10 achievements. The
>>>>>>>               
>>> other
>>>       
>>>>>>> two didn't do it for me, and I never use the HWG shotgun anyway. I
>>>>>>> wonder what the taunt will be. :P
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> bl4nkeh wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> Sandvich!
>>>>>>>> http://www.steampowered.com/tf2/heavy/sandvich.htm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Fudgstu wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> Thank you Jason for giving us an idea of the approx. time
>>>>>>>>> Blood, I think he means the update will be released hopefully at
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>> 2:30pm
>>>>         
>>>>>> PDT.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Blood Letter <
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>> I'm in a meeting from 2-3.  Excellent.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I will inform my subordinates that they are now responsible.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (Or, did he mean he would post with an update on timing at 2:30?)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:37:39 +0000
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] A Heavy Update
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Well since that is only 3 hours away are you going to put the 6th
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>> thing
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>> on the Heavy Update website so we can have some preview of it to
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>> keep
>>>>         
>>>>>> us
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>> drooling.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>> -VM
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:31:22 -0700> From:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected];
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] A Heavy Update> > And it is going to happen
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>> today.
>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>> Hopefully around 2:30 PM PDT.> > Jason> > -----Original
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>> Message----->
>>>>         
>>>>>> From:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto:
>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keeper> Sent:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>> Tuesday,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>> August 19, 2008 10:51 AM> To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>> mailing
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>> list'> Subject: Re: [hlds] A Heavy Update> > There have been many
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>> posts by
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>> Alfred, Mike, Jason, and Eric.> > Jason usually tells us that it's
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>> going to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>> happen soon, so when you see> his> post you know you have a couple
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>> of
>>>>         
>>>>>> hours
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>> at most to finish your sammich.> > No worries :)> > Keeper> >
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>> -----Original
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>> Message-----> From: Leonard L. Church [mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:46 PM> To: Half-Life dedicated
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>> Win32
>>>>         
>>>>>> server
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>> mailing list> Subject: Re: [hlds] A Heavy Update> > Just
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>> curious..>
>>>       
>>>>>> Has
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>> anyone from Valve EVER posted to this list except to tell us an >
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>> update is
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>> coming? I mean, has there ever been any 2 way communication > from
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>> them to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>> us? I don't recall ever seeing it if so.> > > >
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:59:40 -0700
> From: Blood Letter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Released
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> <[email protected]>
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> Just a quick question.
> My server seems to be running, but I won't be able to hop on for a while to 
> test.  (People are playing though, so that's a good 
> sign.)
>
> How do you switch to arena mode?  Do you just have to load an arena map 
> manually?
> How do you get out of arena mode?  Do you just have to manually load a 
> non-arena map?
>
> I'm set up to load random maps from a file, and was wondering if dumping 
> arena maps in there would throw things off.
> (Since arena config and maps seem to be segregated by default)
>
>
>
>   
>> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 23:32:51 +0100
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Released
>>
>> ok ..being a little stupid here may be but...
>>
>> on our windows server  and on our linux server i cannot change the
>> server name away from   Team Fortress 2 Arena Server when the server has
>> updated and running an arena map.
>>
>> my server.cfg is okay and is the same one it was before the update.
>>
>> Any help would be great thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> Craig Collinson wrote:
>>     
>>> is there a cvar to start areana mode or do you just simply load one of the
>>> maps for it to start ?
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:04:07 -0400
> From: "P. Bhandal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [hlds] A Heavy Update
> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list"
> <[email protected]>
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> How exactly does this "sitting out" work exactly? Does some percentage of
> the server have to sit out every round?
>
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 7:50 PM, Patrick O <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> It's not a command line option, afaik. The option to use arena mode is
>> probably within each map itself, or perhaps changing the map to an
>> "arena_" map causes the server to switch to "arena mode" and use the
>> arena mapcycle as well as the arena_config.cfg
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Flubber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>     
>>> Clearly there must be a command line option to call a specific one for a
>>> server, can't you valve release all info for once?
>>>
>>> 2008/8/20 chillicane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> theres a new config file in cfg called config_arena.cfg
>>>>
>>>> this sets the server name to that.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 7:43 AM, steve grout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> wtf
>>>>>
>>>>> cant change server name away from Team Fortress 2 Arena Server
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Spencer wrote:
>>>>>           
>>>>>> They just corrected it.. lmao
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Patrick O <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>             
>>>> wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> There appears to be a spelling mistake on
>>>>>>> http://www.steampowered.com/tf2/heavy/images/06_sandvich.jpg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @Cheese and dairy group
>>>>>>> +20 HEATLH
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is this intended?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Jonah Hirsch <
>>>>>>>               
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>     
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> Good! This is my reason for getting at least 10 achievements. The
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>> other
>>>>         
>>>>>>>> two didn't do it for me, and I never use the HWG shotgun anyway. I
>>>>>>>> wonder what the taunt will be. :P
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> bl4nkeh wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> Sandvich!
>>>>>>>>> http://www.steampowered.com/tf2/heavy/sandvich.htm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Fudgstu wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Jason for giving us an idea of the approx. time
>>>>>>>>>> Blood, I think he means the update will be released hopefully at
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>> 2:30pm
>>>>>           
>>>>>>> PDT.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Blood Letter <
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm in a meeting from 2-3.  Excellent.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I will inform my subordinates that they are now responsible.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> (Or, did he mean he would post with an update on timing at
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> 2:30?)
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:37:39 +0000
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] A Heavy Update
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Well since that is only 3 hours away are you going to put the
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>> 6th
>>     
>>>>>>> thing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>> on the Heavy Update website so we can have some preview of it
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> to
>>     
>>>>> keep
>>>>>           
>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>> drooling.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>> -VM
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:31:22 -0700> From:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected];
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] A Heavy Update> > And it is going to happen
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>> today.
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>> Hopefully around 2:30 PM PDT.> > Jason> > -----Original
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>> Message----->
>>>>>           
>>>>>>> From:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keeper>
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> Sent:
>>     
>>>>>>> Tuesday,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>> August 19, 2008 10:51 AM> To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>> mailing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>> list'> Subject: Re: [hlds] A Heavy Update> > There have been
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> many
>>     
>>>>>>> posts by
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>> Alfred, Mike, Jason, and Eric.> > Jason usually tells us that
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> it's
>>     
>>>>>>> going to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>> happen soon, so when you see> his> post you know you have a
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> couple
>>     
>>>>> of
>>>>>           
>>>>>>> hours
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>> at most to finish your sammich.> > No worries :)> > Keeper> >
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>> -----Original
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>> Message-----> From: Leonard L. Church [mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:46 PM> To: Half-Life dedicated
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>> Win32
>>>>>           
>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list> Subject: Re: [hlds] A Heavy Update> > Just
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>> curious..>
>>>>         
>>>>>>> Has
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>> anyone from Valve EVER posted to this list except to tell us an
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>> update is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>> coming? I mean, has there ever been any 2 way communication >
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> from
>>     
>>>>>>> them to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>> us? I don't recall ever seeing it if so.> > > >
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