Exactly, I won't promote bad behavior such as what you're suggesting. Be thankful they are on the mailing list communicating with us. Be thankful they are taking our suggestions and feedback and actually doing something about it. Be thankful they responded with fixes QUICKLY yesterday. Very few companies these days listen to what their customers have to say.
Sure you can argue "custom tab..." till your blue in the face, but guess what? Eventually they did what we asked for. Go right ahead, take your servers down, and while you're at it maybe you can unsubscribe from the mailing list as well? After all I don't want to promote any bad behavior. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karl Weckstrom Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 12:18 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Browser and Matchmaking You do that. I won't promote bad behavior. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Sanger Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 2:16 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Browser and Matchmaking ... okay? you taking your servers down certainly won't do a whole lot... but whatever floats your boat. I talked to Jason and it simply seems like they couldn't make the deadline. They were working on it up until the very release. Yes, they could have handled things a big differently, but at least many of the errors were fixed within a few hours. At least they are communicating with us on some level. So you go right ahead and make a statement by taking down your l4d servers. I'll keep mine up and work with the development team to improve the game for everyone else.> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 14:05:28 -0500> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Browser and Matchmaking> > Boy it sure would be nice if Valve would do some decent things, like:> > 1. QA their releases before launching them out into the wild> 2. Include sample server and startup configs> 3. Not rely on the server-hosting community to do its QA work for them> > We are all being used. I won't participate in this debacle any further. Thus far, they're using us as guinea pigs. And I won't have it. > > I'm pulling down this L4D hunk of absolute crap until Valve decides they should do right by the people who are their bread and butter. I will suggest everyone else do the same. Anything else will simply promote Valve's bad behavior.> > -Karl Weckstrom> -TrashedGamers.com> > -----Original Message-----> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of AnAkIn .> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 1:54 PM> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list> Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Browser and Matchmaking> > Can't join my server.> > 19:49:24 sv_unreserve> 19:49:24 Server was reserved for -26485 more seconds. Reservation cleared.> > But when I connect to it:> > > Connecting to xxxxxxxxxxxxx...> Server using lobbies no, requiring pw no, lobby id xxxxxxxxxxxx> Server i s reserved for members of joining lobby> > > > 2008/11/7 J T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > Someone said this works?> >> > On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Anthal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >> > > In linux, it's much more resource efficient to run the servers forked.> > > However, all of the servers will use the same config, which is a royal> > > pita.> > >> > > I'd love to see a +exec server##.cfg> > > and have files named server01.cfg, server02.cfg, etc> > >> > > Flubber wrote:> > > > I use this line to specified a cfg to each of my server, works great> > > > ./srcds_run -game left4dead +map l4d_dem_hospital01_apartment +ip xxxxx> > > > -port 27015 +servercfgfile romero.cfg> > > >> > > >> > > > 2008/11/7 1nsane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > >> > > >> > > >> It has to be in the server.cfg. Unfortunately we are not able to> > specify> > > >> the> > > >> server config files so we're stuck with running it either a lobby> > server> > > or> > > >> a server browser server per the same set of files.> > > >>> > > >> O n Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:40 AM, AnAkIn . <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > wrote:> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> There are lots of servers using this, but it seems that sv_unreserve> > is> > > >>>> > > >> NOT> > > >>> > > >>> working correctly, or only working for one map.> > > >>>> > > >>> Every server I've tried to join:> > > >>>> > > >>> Connecting to xxxxxxx> > > >>> Server using lobbies no, requiring pw no, lobby id> > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >>> Server is reserved for members of joining lobby> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> 2008/11/7 Alec Sanger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> I'm using the save cvars. It seems people can join using quick game> > or> > > >>>> whatever, but I don't think people will join in groups.> From:> > > >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> Date: Fri, 7> > > >>>>> > > >> Nov> > > >>> > > >>>> 2008 16:25:50 +0000> Subject: [hlds] Server Browser and Matchmaking>> > >> > > >>>>> > > >>> If> > > >>>> > > >>>> I use the following cvars:> sv_allow _lobby_connect_only 0> sv_tags> > > >>>>> > > >>> "Server> > > >>>> > > >>>> Browser Join Enabled" > sv_unreserve> > Does this mean that my> > server> > > >>>>> > > >>> will> > > >>>> > > >>>> no long be able to be joined via matchmaking? Because when I input> > > them> > > >>>>> > > >>> into> > > >>>> > > >>>> the server.cfg and restarted the map I no longer got any parties of> > 3> > > >>>>> > > >> or> > > >>> > > >>> 4> > > >>>> > > >>>> joining, it would just be the odd 1 person joining at a time. I hav e> > > no> > > >>>> problem with my server appearing in matchmaking I just want to be> > able> > > >>>>> > > >> to> > > >>> > > >>>> join it when I want and when my clan members want.> > Thanks> >> > > >>>> _________________________________________________________________>> > See> > > >>>>> > > >>> the> > > >>>> > > >>>> most popular videos on the web >> > > >>>> http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/115454061/direct/01/>> > > >>>> _______________________________________________> To unsubscribe,> > edit> > > >>>>> > > >>> your> > > >>>> > > >>>> list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:>> > > >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds> > > >>>> _________________________________________________________________> > > >>>> Get 5 GB of storage with Windows Live Hotmail.> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>> > >> > http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_5gb_112 008> > > >>> > > >>>> _______________________________________________> > > >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list> > archives,> > > >>>> please visit:> > > >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>> _______________________________________________> > > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list> > archives,> > > >>> please visit:> > > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >> _______________________________________________> > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives,> > > >> please visit:> > > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds> > > >>> > > >>> > > > _______________________________________________> > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives,> > > please visit:> > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds> > > >> > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives,> > > please visit:> > > http://list.v alvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds> > >> >> >> >> > --> > ---------> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > _______________________________________________> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives,> > please visit:> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds> >> _______________________________________________> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds> > _____________________________ __________________> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows(r) connects the people, information, and fun that are part of your life http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119463819/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds