My bad - I forgot to say what happens at the moment.

The server starts and runs. I can connect to it using my internal ip.
My friends can connect to it using my external ip. We can play fine
with the exception that we cannot use a lobby so we cannot choose
characters. I just restart the server to specify the difficulty we
want and then in game we choose the campaign.

Sometimes, very occasionally I can see the server listed as a steam
group server on my main L4D game menu. My friends have never reported
seeing this, but I have never managed to get them to check at a time
when I can see it.

I can see the server listed in both the LAN tabs and the custom tab of
the serverbrowser available in the console with openserverbrowser.

So I really need:

1. A way to choose characters.
2. A way for my friends to connect to my server without using a
console and connect command, or the serverbrowser (because L4D should
use matchmaking).

Thanks

Jonathan Ritchie

2008/11/20 Jonathan Ritchie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hello
>
> I have read the lists and the forums and I cant find a solution for
> what I want to do that I can test reliably. I figured I would just
> post what I want to happen and you guys can tell me why its hard to do
> either from the configuration or network side.
>
> I have a series of computers behind a firewall/router. They all have
> local IP numbers. I run my server on a machine with IP 192.168.1.4. I
> want to run a Left 4 Dead server on this machine that has the
> following characteristics.
>
> 1. Only people in a given steam group should be able to connect to it.
> No passwords should be required either.
>
> 2. If a user is in my steam group all they need to do is to go to
> option to play on a server for my steam group. When they create a
> lobby here (instead of connecting directly) then they will use my
> server - it will not be a public lobby.
>
> 3. The game will display the fact that a steam group server is
> available on the main menu to all users of my steamgroup all of the
> time. This seems to work VERY VERY OCCASIONALLY at the moment (like 5%
> of the time its there, 95% its not - status can change without a
> server restart).
>
> 4. Its easy to connect to my server using a lobby - this is important
> because at the moment there IS NO WAY TO CHOOSE YOUR CHARACTER. The
> other way to phrase this is you do not have to connect to a server
> that is already running a game. I want to start a new one....
>
> To me this all seems incredibly basic.
>
> We have a variable that sets the steam group id for a server. When the
> client checks for a steam group server it just matches these strings
> and only returns these servers. I cannot see how this cannot work
> reliably. When you create a new lobby for a steam group, it must find
> one of those servers as long as they are broadcasting to the master,
> and mine clearly suggests that it is. The lobby code works in general,
> so I don't see why it does not see my server.
>
> I am pretty sure that the steam master servers can see my server. When
> I start it up it says:
>
> Adding master server 69.28.140.247:27011
> Adding master server 68.142.72.250:27011
> Sending heartbeat to master server...
> Connection to steam servers successful.
>    VAC secure mode is activated.
>
> So I don't understand why it fails, don't understand why it is not
> consistent and don't understand why I cant create a lobby then connect
> to my server in some way.... Its all very frustrating.
>
> My server.cfg:
>
> // Server Name
> hostname "Rico's Left 4 Dead Server"
>
> // Rcon Cvars
> rcon_password somepassword
>
> // this will allows you to find a server through matchmaking with a
> specific search string
> // note that I have tried with and without this key
> sv_search_key some_special_key
>
> // steam group that has access to the server
> sv_steamgroup 599155
>
> // only for members of certain steam group
> // also tried a value of 2 here
> sv_steamgroup_exclusive 1
>
> // region
> sv_region 2
>
> And my startup line:
>
> srcds.exe -console -game left4dead -autoupdate +map
> l4d_hospital01_apartment +ip 192.168.1.4 -port 27015 -nohltv +sv_lan 0
>
> I have read this post:
>
> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=752866
>
> and other long threads on the forums and mailing list.
>
> Sorry for the long post. If people cant help I hope it stimulates discussions.
>
> Thanks
>
> Jonathan Ritchie
>

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