The easy answer is that my servers aren't being a NAT. :) But yes my question was more related to search_key and not Jonathan Ritchie's original post.
On Thu, 2008-11-20 at 17:49 -0600, Brad wrote: > I'd like to know how you have internet users joining your server behind a > NAT using matchmaking. > > On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 5:46 PM, msleeper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yeah L4D has really changed things up for clients so I don't think it is > > a "lower level" question to ask. I am wary of putting the search key on > > my servers in fear of no traffic getting pushed to them, since the vast > > majority of players don't use the search key. There isn't any > > integration of it in the GUI that I was aware of, and if the search key > > is a Valve-preferred method of people finding servers, I'd like to know > > if they would be willing to add it in to Multiplayer options somewhere. > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2008-11-20 at 18:42 -0500, o k wrote: > > > I don't even know why I bothered to try to help you. Why don't you try > > what > > > I suggested and figure it out fully for yourself. > > > > > > And the other guy had a legit question. You don't get to police this > > mailing > > > list. If you ask a question, you best expect people to respond to the > > best > > > of their ability, and even raise further questions. > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 6:34 PM, Jonathan Ritchie <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >wrote: > > > > > > > Thats a much lower level of question than this thread is attempting to > > > > address. Please try to avoid polluting the thread. > > > > > > > > L4D uses a nearly identical server setup to all the rest of the Valve > > > > games and is in general command line and configuration file based. > > > > Plenty of documentation on the basics is available from Valve. > > > > > > > > Jonathan Ritchie > > > > > > > > 2008/11/20 msleeper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > Is there any way to edit these options from the GUI, or does a client > > > > > have to input these in the console and/or a config file? > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2008-11-20 at 18:23 -0500, o k wrote: > > > > >> Sounds like you need to use a search key. Set the same key on your > > > > server, > > > > >> and on your client when you make the lobby. And in theory, it should > > > > choose > > > > >> your server to join from the lobby, because the search key is the > > same. > > > > At > > > > >> least that's how I understood it. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> sv_search_key : 0 : > > : > > > > >> When searching for a dedicated server from lobby, restrict search to > > > > only > > > > >> dedicated servers having the same sv_search_key. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> sv_search_max_ping : 250 > > > > >> : : Maximum acceptable ping when lobby leader > > searches > > > > for > > > > >> dedicated servers. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> sv_search_max_results : 75 > > > > >> : : Stop searching for dedicated servers once this > > many > > > > are > > > > >> found. > > > > >> > > > > >> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Jonathan Ritchie < > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> > My bad - I forgot to say what happens at the moment. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > The server starts and runs. I can connect to it using my internal > > ip. > > > > >> > My friends can connect to it using my external ip. We can play > > fine > > > > >> > with the exception that we cannot use a lobby so we cannot choose > > > > >> > characters. I just restart the server to specify the difficulty we > > > > >> > want and then in game we choose the campaign. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Sometimes, very occasionally I can see the server listed as a > > steam > > > > >> > group server on my main L4D game menu. My friends have never > > reported > > > > >> > seeing this, but I have never managed to get them to check at a > > time > > > > >> > when I can see it. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > I can see the server listed in both the LAN tabs and the custom > > tab of > > > > >> > the serverbrowser available in the console with openserverbrowser. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > So I really need: > > > > >> > > > > > >> > 1. A way to choose characters. > > > > >> > 2. A way for my friends to connect to my server without using a > > > > >> > console and connect command, or the serverbrowser (because L4D > > should > > > > >> > use matchmaking). > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Thanks > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Jonathan Ritchie > > > > >> > > > > > >> > 2008/11/20 Jonathan Ritchie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > >> > > Hello > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > I have read the lists and the forums and I cant find a solution > > for > > > > >> > > what I want to do that I can test reliably. I figured I would > > just > > > > >> > > post what I want to happen and you guys can tell me why its hard > > to > > > > do > > > > >> > > either from the configuration or network side. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > I have a series of computers behind a firewall/router. They all > > have > > > > >> > > local IP numbers. I run my server on a machine with IP > > 192.168.1.4. > > > > I > > > > >> > > want to run a Left 4 Dead server on this machine that has the > > > > >> > > following characteristics. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > 1. Only people in a given steam group should be able to connect > > to > > > > it. > > > > >> > > No passwords should be required either. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > 2. If a user is in my steam group all they need to do is to go > > to > > > > >> > > option to play on a server for my steam group. When they create > > a > > > > >> > > lobby here (instead of connecting directly) then they will use > > my > > > > >> > > server - it will not be a public lobby. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > 3. The game will display the fact that a steam group server is > > > > >> > > available on the main menu to all users of my steamgroup all of > > the > > > > >> > > time. This seems to work VERY VERY OCCASIONALLY at the moment > > (like > > > > 5% > > > > >> > > of the time its there, 95% its not - status can change without a > > > > >> > > server restart). > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > 4. Its easy to connect to my server using a lobby - this is > > > > important > > > > >> > > because at the moment there IS NO WAY TO CHOOSE YOUR CHARACTER. > > The > > > > >> > > other way to phrase this is you do not have to connect to a > > server > > > > >> > > that is already running a game. I want to start a new one.... > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > To me this all seems incredibly basic. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > We have a variable that sets the steam group id for a server. > > When > > > > the > > > > >> > > client checks for a steam group server it just matches these > > strings > > > > >> > > and only returns these servers. I cannot see how this cannot > > work > > > > >> > > reliably. When you create a new lobby for a steam group, it must > > > > find > > > > >> > > one of those servers as long as they are broadcasting to the > > master, > > > > >> > > and mine clearly suggests that it is. The lobby code works in > > > > general, > > > > >> > > so I don't see why it does not see my server. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > I am pretty sure that the steam master servers can see my > > server. > > > > When > > > > >> > > I start it up it says: > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Adding master server 69.28.140.247:27011 > > > > >> > > Adding master server 68.142.72.250:27011 > > > > >> > > Sending heartbeat to master server... > > > > >> > > Connection to steam servers successful. > > > > >> > > VAC secure mode is activated. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > So I don't understand why it fails, don't understand why it is > > not > > > > >> > > consistent and don't understand why I cant create a lobby then > > > > connect > > > > >> > > to my server in some way.... Its all very frustrating. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > My server.cfg: > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > // Server Name > > > > >> > > hostname "Rico's Left 4 Dead Server" > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > // Rcon Cvars > > > > >> > > rcon_password somepassword > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > // this will allows you to find a server through matchmaking > > with a > > > > >> > > specific search string > > > > >> > > // note that I have tried with and without this key > > > > >> > > sv_search_key some_special_key > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > // steam group that has access to the server > > > > >> > > sv_steamgroup 599155 > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > // only for members of certain steam group > > > > >> > > // also tried a value of 2 here > > > > >> > > sv_steamgroup_exclusive 1 > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > // region > > > > >> > > sv_region 2 > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > And my startup line: > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > srcds.exe -console -game left4dead -autoupdate +map > > > > >> > > l4d_hospital01_apartment +ip 192.168.1.4 -port 27015 -nohltv > > > > +sv_lan 0 > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > I have read this post: > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=752866 > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > and other long threads on the forums and mailing list. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Sorry for the long post. If people cant help I hope it > > stimulates > > > > >> > discussions. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Thanks > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Jonathan Ritchie > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > > > >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > > >> > please visit: > > > > >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > >> > > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
