Piracy is bad, can we just leave it at that and move on? Kitteny Berk wrote: > But in advertising your cracked server to the public, and keeping it > cracked (well over a year after release) that strikes me more like > you're running cracked servers and condoning piracy. > > Justin wrote: > >> I got members who were cracked who bought the game, i wanted to remove the >> crack after my friend who got the game for christmas but i didn't expect >> this to happen.. >> it does not matter its all screwed up and over with. >> >> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Kitteny Berk <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Just to clarify myself a little; >>> >>> Cracked servers are always going to be a touchy subject among gamers and >>> admins. >>> >>> Personally, I'm not *completely* against running /*private*/ cracked >>> servers, I ran one for CoD4 for 2 weeks at release for my community, the >>> result was that 25 people from my community who wouldn't have bought the >>> game ended up buying it. (I know some people here will be against this, >>> but the only affect it had on anyone was more sales as people had got to >>> love the game bought it) and that was a one off for my community, as >>> the uptake was slow for such a fun game. net result? 25 more sales for >>> activision. >>> >>> >>> What you're doing, advertising yourself as "The only english/usa cracked >>> tf2 server." does nothing but encourage piracy, and I suspect cheating >>> to some degree, which is bad for players and bad for valve. >>> >>> You're giving nothing back to valve, it's unlikely you've caused more >>> sales by advertising your server as you have, and now you're lashing out >>> at others who seem to run legit servers. >>> >>> Kitteny Berk wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Or, you could be fucking another business over (valve) by supporting, >>>> condoning, and advertising piracy, You're nothing but a parasite. >>>> >>>> Justin wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Both could be used to do the same thing and that's to get traffic onto a >>>>> server. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 9:47 PM, msleeper <[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Personally I think supporting pirates is worse than spoofing player >>>>>> counts, but maybe that's just me. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 21:42 -0500, Justin wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah well its funny how you had cracked servers a while ago(wheres >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> your >>> >>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> slap >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> on the wrist?) >>>>>>> honestly stop being a player whore and remove your packet manipulation >>>>>>> plugin or take it off your server altogether. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 9:36 PM, 1nsane <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I believe a bunch of us banned you for using those server crashing >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> cvar >>> >>> >>>>>>>> exploits a while ago. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Infact didn't Nephyrin or someone else make a thread about it here >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> too? >>> >>> >>>>>>>> Funny you'd ask for our help now. Get off my mailing list, fattie >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> (the >>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> last >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> part is confirmed). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Justin <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I don't know how its happening, but my windows tf2 server keeps >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> crashing >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> after a player with a blank name joins. >>>>>>>>> The crash happens instantly after the player connects and logs of >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>> the >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> ip >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> not made; I don't know what this player has against us but he's >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> really >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> trying my patience >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> archives, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> archives, >>> >>> >>>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> please visit: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>>> please visit: >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>> >>>>> >>> please visit: >>> >>> >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>> >>>>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>>>> >>>>> >>> signature database 3707 (20081219) __________ >>> >>> >>>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.eset.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> >>>> >>> please visit: >>> >>> >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>>> >>>> >>> signature database 3707 (20081219) __________ >>> >>> >>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>>> >>>> http://www.eset.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature >> database 3707 (20081219) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >
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