I agree with this. Let's keep this off the list. There are far more direct
ways of ... amusement.

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Shawn Zipay <z...@csnation.net> wrote:

> A crazy idea for everyone in this particular topic:
>
> Shut up.
>
> The rest of us really don't care about this stupid back and forth that
> apparently has no end.  So on behalf of everyone else on this list,
> everyone
> needs to just drop it and move on.
>
> Shawn P. Zipay
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> On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Craig Collinson <
> craig.collinso...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > isnt it time for your bottle ?
> >
> > 2008/12/20 Justin <mysteriousjus...@gmail.com>
> >
> > > And so the harassing continues.
> > > Mana says:
> > > haha fat ass
> > >
> > > On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 11:26 AM, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Haha, he's banned from most servers so he has to run his own shitty
> > > server
> > > > and I guess no one wants to play with him.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.google.com/search?q=STEAM_0%3A0%3A16216315&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/hlds@list.valvesoftware.com/9313571.html
> > > >
> > > > Crashing servers does that to ya.
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 4:39 AM, tgnwells <tgnwe...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Piracy is bad, can we just leave it at that and move on?
> > > > >
> > > > > Kitteny Berk wrote:
> > > > > > But in advertising your cracked server to the public, and keeping
> > it
> > > > > > cracked (well over a year after release) that strikes me more
> like
> > > > > > you're running cracked servers and condoning piracy.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Justin wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> I got members who were cracked who bought the game, i wanted to
> > > remove
> > > > > the
> > > > > >> crack after my friend who got the game for christmas but i
> didn't
> > > > expect
> > > > > >> this to happen..
> > > > > >> it does not matter its all screwed up and over with.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Kitteny Berk <
> > b...@hairy-arse.com
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> Just to clarify myself a little;
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Cracked servers are always going to be a touchy subject among
> > > gamers
> > > > > and
> > > > > >>> admins.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Personally, I'm not *completely* against running /*private*/
> > > cracked
> > > > > >>> servers, I ran one for CoD4 for 2 weeks at release for my
> > > community,
> > > > > the
> > > > > >>> result was that 25 people from my community who wouldn't have
> > > bought
> > > > > the
> > > > > >>> game ended up buying it.  (I know some people here will be
> > against
> > > > > this,
> > > > > >>> but the only affect it had on anyone was more sales as people
> had
> > > got
> > > > > to
> > > > > >>> love the game bought it)  and that was a one off for my
> > community,
> > > as
> > > > > >>> the uptake was slow for such a fun game.  net result? 25 more
> > sales
> > > > for
> > > > > >>> activision.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> What you're doing, advertising yourself as "The only
> english/usa
> > > > > cracked
> > > > > >>> tf2 server."   does nothing but encourage piracy, and I suspect
> > > > > cheating
> > > > > >>> to some degree, which is bad for players and bad for valve.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> You're giving nothing back to valve, it's unlikely you've
> caused
> > > more
> > > > > >>> sales by advertising your server as you have, and now you're
> > > lashing
> > > > > out
> > > > > >>> at others who seem to run legit servers.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Kitteny Berk wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>> Or, you could be fucking another business over (valve) by
> > > > supporting,
> > > > > >>>> condoning, and advertising piracy,  You're nothing but a
> > parasite.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Justin wrote:
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Both could be used to do the same thing and that's to get
> > traffic
> > > > > onto a
> > > > > >>>>> server.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 9:47 PM, msleeper <
> > > mslee...@cyberwurx.com>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> Personally I think supporting pirates is worse than spoofing
> > > > player
> > > > > >>>>>> counts, but maybe that's just me.
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 21:42 -0500, Justin wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> Yeah well its funny how you had cracked servers a while
> > > > ago(wheres
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>> your
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> slap
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> on the wrist?)
> > > > > >>>>>>> honestly stop being a player whore and remove your packet
> > > > > manipulation
> > > > > >>>>>>> plugin or take it off your server altogether.
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 9:36 PM, 1nsane <1nsane.pw@
> gmail.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> I believe a bunch of us banned you for using those server
> > > > crashing
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>> cvar
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> exploits a while ago.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> Infact didn't Nephyrin or someone else make a thread about
> > it
> > > > here
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>> too?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> Funny you'd ask for our help now. Get off my mailing list,
> > > > fattie
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>> (the
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> last
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> part is confirmed).
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Justin <
> > > > > mysteriousjus...@gmail.com>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> I don't know how its happening, but my windows tf2 server
> > > keeps
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> crashing
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> after a player with a blank name joins.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> The crash happens instantly after the player connects and
> > > logs
> > > > of
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>> the
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> ip
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> are
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> not made; I don't know what this player has against us
> but
> > > he's
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> really
> > > > > >>>>>>
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> > > > > >>>>>>
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