I own the game 3 times over now, I had to start a community and i kept
failing due to servers like lotus and dig being player whores.

On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 6:39 PM, msleeper <[email protected]> wrote:

> You're still trying to justify running a cracked game and pandering to
> pirates?
>
> I also dare you to show me a time when I was running fakeclients or any
> sort of scheme to attract traffic. Believe it or not, there are plenty
> of legit communities out there - who don't lie to players, OR run
> nosteam cracks so 15 year olds don't have to ask their parents for $20
> to buy TF2.
>
>
> Sent from my High Horse
>
> On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 18:30 -0500, Justin wrote:
> > no its because i cant compete with 40+ other servers who dont have a
> > community that supports they're own servers, if you cant get players on
> it
> > you dont need the server IMHO, but still it was only 1 server and
> lotus(who
> > im talking about mostly) started out cracked to attract players,
> mana/1nsane
> > said it himself to me in MSN back then. Honestly you think 1 little
> cracked
> > tf2 server is gonna ruin the game? nao your servers waisting valuable
> time
> > for players to find an actual server is killing the game because they
> talk
> > negatively about your servers and the game because valve wont patch it.
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 6:03 PM, msleeper <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > This coming from a guy who runs cracked versions of the game so people
> > > who can't even be bothered to PAY for it can play.
> > >
> > > On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 17:54 -0500, Justin wrote:
> > > > Manipulating packets as in fake player counts like most of you guys
> use.
> > > I
> > > > swear valve needs to blacklist all your servers.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Justin <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > working as just as the same as manipulating packets to drive
> players
> > > onto
> > > > > my server.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:47 PM, msleeper <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> So hey how are your nosteam and other hacks working?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 07:15 -0500, Justin wrote:
> > > > >> > Yeah, also i wonder who likes joining servers saying 25 slots
> but
> > > there
> > > > >> > being nobody on..
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:54 PM, 1nsane <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > Hahahaha.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > But seriously. This is getting very annoying. Who likes
> joining
> > > their
> > > > >> > > server
> > > > >> > > only to see people randomly screaming "FUCKING LAG"?
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Andreas Grimm <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > Hmmm ...
> > > > >> > > > It seems so, that the guy who had the idea of custom tabs is
> now
> > > > >> working
> > > > >> > > on
> > > > >> > > > network optimization...
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> > > > From: [email protected]
> > > > >> > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> Tony
> > > > >> Paloma
> > > > >> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 9:08 PM
> > > > >> > > > To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
> > > > >> > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] New inexplicable rate restriction making
> > > 26x+
> > > > >> > > > serverslaggy.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > Same here. There was never a problem until last update.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> > > > From: [email protected]
> > > > >> > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> Ronny
> > > > >> Schedel
> > > > >> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 2:26 AM
> > > > >> > > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > > > >> > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] New inexplicable rate restriction making
> > > 26x+
> > > > >> > > > serverslaggy.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > We never had this problem before the latest update.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > >I had this issue before the update but didnt notice it
> until I
> > > > >> turned
> > > > >> > > > >net_graph on to show choke, perhaps its been a bug longer.
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > >> > > > > From: Ryan Mannion <[email protected]>
> > > > >> > > > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > > > >> > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > >> > > > > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 1:21:23 AM
> > > > >> > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] New inexplicable rate restriction
> making
> > > 26x+
> > > > >> > > servers
> > > > >> > > > > laggy.
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > I want to confirm that this patch has caused my 31-player
> > > servers
> > > > >> to
> > > > >> > > > > exhibit lag/warping players. All players can see the
> effects
> > > and
> > > > >> are
> > > > >> > > > > (understandably) very angry about it. net_graph 3 confirms
> > > > >> frequent
> > > > >> > > > > high choke values (40-60) when they're typically 0 prior
> to
> > > the
> > > > >> patch.
> > > > >> > > > > FWIW, my sv_maxrate was 30000 before the patch and
> performance
> > > was
> > > > >> > > > > fine.
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > Please address this issue (and the timeout bug, and the
> team
> > > > >> change
> > > > >> > > bug)!
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > Ryan
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:02 AM, Coldorak <
> > > [email protected]
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > > wrote:
> > > > >> > > > >> I run a 27 players server (two hidden slots and sourcetv)
> and
> > > > >> > > yesterday
> > > > >> > > > I
> > > > >> > > > >> thought it was me who was laggy, even with my great
> internet
> > > > >> > > connection.
> > > > >> > > > >> So it would have been my TF2 server itself?
> > > > >> > > > >>
> > > > >> > > > >> Cold
> > > > >> > > > >>
> > > > >> > > > >> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Nephyrin Zey
> > > > >> > > > >> <[email protected]>wrote:
> > > > >> > > > >>
> > > > >> > > > >>> Well i've been looking at it, and the combined in: and
> out:
> > > k/s
> > > > >> rates
> > > > >> > > > >>> never seen to hit 30... buuut, i'm getting a lot of
> 'faded'
> > > > >> colors on
> > > > >> > > > >>> the net graph and update rate is dropping way below 66
> even
> > > > >> though
> > > > >> > > > >>> server is maintaining its FPS just fine.
> > > > >> > > > >>>
> > > > >> > > > >>> I'm assuming it's hitting its rate limit, but i could be
> > > > >> mistaken.
> > > > >> > > > >>> Valve, can you please take a look at this and give us
> word?
> > > > >> > > > >>>
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> > > > >> > > > >>
> > > > >> > > > >>
> > > > >> > > > >>
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