He's right. Valve, you need to concentrate on people running fake clients, more than you need to concentrate on people stealing from you.
Sent from my cracked iPhone On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 19:43 -0500, Justin wrote: > I dont care, right now im wanting to fight for my right to have a server the > way i want it, I think the FakePlayers are just as worse and are used in the > sameway, I didnt use the crack to pirate or condone piracy, i used it as a > baseline for my server just like lotus did back in the beta/earlystages when > tf2 and that clan started out; Same way that i attempted. > Now i don't have proof but it is true, also he had some of those > cracked servers back in march of 2008 when i started my own first community. > Now honestly stop the argument about me having a cracked server, because > this needs to be shifted into fake playerslots, honestly remove the > fakeslots or remove the servers altogether, ITS THAT SIMPLE. > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Kitteny Berk <[email protected]> wrote: > > > :facepalm: > > > > You don't fail because of other busy communities, you fail because you > > don't offer anything different to the 20,000 other servers out there, > > legit or otherwise. If you have a niche (that's not being a scumbag > > running cracked servers), exploit it. > > > > Otherwise, make a website, get your mates to join it, play loads, admin > > in a fair and reasonable manner (I seriously doubt you're capable of > > this, as I expect will be proved by the diatribe in your reply to me) > > and you'll get regular players, and from that a community will grow. > > > > Carry on as you are, and you'll just get laughed at. > > > > Justin wrote: > > > I own the game 3 times over now, I had to start a community and i kept > > > failing due to servers like lotus and dig being player whores. > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 6:39 PM, msleeper <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > >> You're still trying to justify running a cracked game and pandering to > > >> pirates? > > >> > > >> I also dare you to show me a time when I was running fakeclients or any > > >> sort of scheme to attract traffic. Believe it or not, there are plenty > > >> of legit communities out there - who don't lie to players, OR run > > >> nosteam cracks so 15 year olds don't have to ask their parents for $20 > > >> to buy TF2. > > >> > > >> > > >> Sent from my High Horse > > >> > > >> On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 18:30 -0500, Justin wrote: > > >> > > >>> no its because i cant compete with 40+ other servers who dont have a > > >>> community that supports they're own servers, if you cant get players on > > >>> > > >> it > > >> > > >>> you dont need the server IMHO, but still it was only 1 server and > > >>> > > >> lotus(who > > >> > > >>> im talking about mostly) started out cracked to attract players, > > >>> > > >> mana/1nsane > > >> > > >>> said it himself to me in MSN back then. Honestly you think 1 little > > >>> > > >> cracked > > >> > > >>> tf2 server is gonna ruin the game? nao your servers waisting valuable > > >>> > > >> time > > >> > > >>> for players to find an actual server is killing the game because they > > >>> > > >> talk > > >> > > >>> negatively about your servers and the game because valve wont patch it. > > >>> > > >>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 6:03 PM, msleeper <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> This coming from a guy who runs cracked versions of the game so people > > >>>> who can't even be bothered to PAY for it can play. > > >>>> > > >>>> On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 17:54 -0500, Justin wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> Manipulating packets as in fake player counts like most of you guys > > >>>>> > > >> use. > > >> > > >>>> I > > >>>> > > >>>>> swear valve needs to blacklist all your servers. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Justin <[email protected]> > > >>>>> > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>>> working as just as the same as manipulating packets to drive > > >>>>>> > > >> players > > >> > > >>>> onto > > >>>> > > >>>>>> my server. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:47 PM, msleeper <[email protected]> > > >>>>>> > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>>>> So hey how are your nosteam and other hacks working? > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 07:15 -0500, Justin wrote: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Yeah, also i wonder who likes joining servers saying 25 slots > > >>>>>>>> > > >> but > > >> > > >>>> there > > >>>> > > >>>>>>>> being nobody on.. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:54 PM, 1nsane <[email protected]> > > >>>>>>>> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>>>>>>>> Hahahaha. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> But seriously. This is getting very annoying. Who likes > > >>>>>>>>> > > >> joining > > >> > > >>>> their > > >>>> > > >>>>>>>>> server > > >>>>>>>>> only to see people randomly screaming "FUCKING LAG"? > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Andreas Grimm <[email protected]> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Hmmm ... > > >>>>>>>>>> It seems so, that the guy who had the idea of custom tabs is > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >> now > > >> > > >>>>>>> working > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> on > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> network optimization... > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > > >>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] > > >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >> Tony > > >> > > >>>>>>> Paloma > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 9:08 PM > > >>>>>>>>>> To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' > > >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] New inexplicable rate restriction making > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>> 26x+ > > >>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> serverslaggy. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Same here. There was never a problem until last update. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > > >>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] > > >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >> Ronny > > >> > > >>>>>>> Schedel > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 2:26 AM > > >>>>>>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > > >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] New inexplicable rate restriction making > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>> 26x+ > > >>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> serverslaggy. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> We never had this problem before the latest update. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> I had this issue before the update but didnt notice it > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> until I > > >> > > >>>>>>> turned > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> net_graph on to show choke, perhaps its been a bug longer. > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________ > > >>>>>>>>>>> From: Ryan Mannion <[email protected]> > > >>>>>>>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > > >>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 1:21:23 AM > > >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] New inexplicable rate restriction > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> making > > >> > > >>>> 26x+ > > >>>> > > >>>>>>>>> servers > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> laggy. > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> I want to confirm that this patch has caused my 31-player > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>> servers > > >>>> > > >>>>>>> to > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> exhibit lag/warping players. All players can see the > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> effects > > >> > > >>>> and > > >>>> > > >>>>>>> are > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> (understandably) very angry about it. net_graph 3 confirms > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> frequent > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> high choke values (40-60) when they're typically 0 prior > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> to > > >> > > >>>> the > > >>>> > > >>>>>>> patch. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> FWIW, my sv_maxrate was 30000 before the patch and > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> performance > > >> > > >>>> was > > >>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> fine. > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Please address this issue (and the timeout bug, and the > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> team > > >> > > >>>>>>> change > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> bug)! > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Ryan > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:02 AM, Coldorak < > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>> [email protected] > > >>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I run a 27 players server (two hidden slots and sourcetv) > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> and > > >> > > >>>>>>>>> yesterday > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> I > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> thought it was me who was laggy, even with my great > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> internet > > >> > > >>>>>>>>> connection. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> So it would have been my TF2 server itself? > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Cold > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Nephyrin Zey > > >>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well i've been looking at it, and the combined in: and > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> out: > > >> > > >>>> k/s > > >>>> > > >>>>>>> rates > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> never seen to hit 30... buuut, i'm getting a lot of > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> 'faded' > > >> > > >>>>>>> colors on > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the net graph and update rate is dropping way below 66 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> even > > >> > > >>>>>>> though > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> server is maintaining its FPS just fine. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm assuming it's hitting its rate limit, but i could be > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> mistaken. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Valve, can you please take a look at this and give us > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> word? > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> list > > >> > > >>>>>>>>> archives, > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> please visit: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.coldfire.info > > >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> list > > >> > > >>>>>>> archives, > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> please visit: > > >>>>>>>>>>>> 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