SourceTV removes a slot because it takes up a slot and then disguises the
slot to keep the server browser from saying "1/25" when the server is empty,
but it instead says "0/24."

On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Procyon <[email protected]> wrote:

> You are thinking of one of them sv_tags disabler plugins? I'll consider
> it a viable solution.
>
> But isn't this a bug right here:
>
> maxplayers
> "maxplayers" is "26"
> tv_enable 1
> maxplayers set to 25 (extra slot was added for SourceTV)
> maxplayers
> "maxplayers" is "25"
>
> An extra slot was not added, a slot was removed!
>
> SourceTV is not able to bump maxplayers over 25.
>
> I think it should always increase maxplayers by 1 if possible. And that
> the increased_maxplayers tag should not be added when running a SourceTV
> if sv_visiblemaxplayers is set to <=25.
>
> That way a 24 player + stv server with hidden slots would behave the
> same as a 24 player + stv server without hidden slots in terms of
> sv_tags added.
>
> 1nsane skrev:
> > Do you have sourcemod? It would be fairly easy to strip out the tags
> > completely and just add the ones that you want.
> >
> > That's what I do. I think it's fairly obvious that my server is running a
> cp
> > map so there's no need to add that to the tags. Right? :P
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Procyon <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Perhaps it should. Adding a hidden slot on a 24 maxplayer setup does not
> >> result in "increased_maxplayers"
> >> but adding a hidden slot to a 24 maxplayer + stv setup does. Note that
> >> the 24 maxplayer + stv setup alone is not tagged as
> >> "increased_maxplayers". Too bad that there is a reason to run sv_tags
> >> disabler even when running vanilla servers targeted to 24 playing
> clients.
> >>
> >> Nephyrin Zey skrev:
> >>
> >>> Well, if you use one of the 'fixes' that remove troublesome tags it
> >>> is. The tag doesn't take visiblemaxplayers into account, though
> >>> perhaps it should.
> >>>
> >>> - Neph
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Procyon <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>  From the tf2 1.0.2.1 update:
> >>>> - Fixed servers with maxplayers <= 24 that are running SourceTV having
> >>>> the "increased_maxplayers" tag added for their server.
> >>>>
> >>>> But let's say I run 25 maxplayers and hide the 25th slot (reserved
> slot)
> >>>> with sv_visiblemaxplayers 24. shouldn't I still be able to run
> SourceTV
> >>>> on top of that without having the "increased_maxplayers" tag added for
> >>>> the server?
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm trying to run SourceTV on a server with 24 players and add a
> hidden
> >>>> reserved slot without having the "increased_maxplayers" tag added. I
> >>>> guess it is not possible?
> >>>>
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