Really? I can not reproduce that. Adding SourceTV on a 24 player server 
bumps the slots to 25 and it shows as "1/25" in the server browser.

Cc2iscooL skrev:
> SourceTV removes a slot because it takes up a slot and then disguises the
> slot to keep the server browser from saying "1/25" when the server is empty,
> but it instead says "0/24."
>
> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Procyon <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>   
>> You are thinking of one of them sv_tags disabler plugins? I'll consider
>> it a viable solution.
>>
>> But isn't this a bug right here:
>>
>> maxplayers
>> "maxplayers" is "26"
>> tv_enable 1
>> maxplayers set to 25 (extra slot was added for SourceTV)
>> maxplayers
>> "maxplayers" is "25"
>>
>> An extra slot was not added, a slot was removed!
>>
>> SourceTV is not able to bump maxplayers over 25.
>>
>> I think it should always increase maxplayers by 1 if possible. And that
>> the increased_maxplayers tag should not be added when running a SourceTV
>> if sv_visiblemaxplayers is set to <=25.
>>
>> That way a 24 player + stv server with hidden slots would behave the
>> same as a 24 player + stv server without hidden slots in terms of
>> sv_tags added.
>>
>> 1nsane skrev:
>>     
>>> Do you have sourcemod? It would be fairly easy to strip out the tags
>>> completely and just add the ones that you want.
>>>
>>> That's what I do. I think it's fairly obvious that my server is running a
>>>       
>> cp
>>     
>>> map so there's no need to add that to the tags. Right? :P
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Procyon <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Perhaps it should. Adding a hidden slot on a 24 maxplayer setup does not
>>>> result in "increased_maxplayers"
>>>> but adding a hidden slot to a 24 maxplayer + stv setup does. Note that
>>>> the 24 maxplayer + stv setup alone is not tagged as
>>>> "increased_maxplayers". Too bad that there is a reason to run sv_tags
>>>> disabler even when running vanilla servers targeted to 24 playing
>>>>         
>> clients.
>>     
>>>> Nephyrin Zey skrev:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Well, if you use one of the 'fixes' that remove troublesome tags it
>>>>> is. The tag doesn't take visiblemaxplayers into account, though
>>>>> perhaps it should.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Neph
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Procyon <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>  From the tf2 1.0.2.1 update:
>>>>>> - Fixed servers with maxplayers <= 24 that are running SourceTV having
>>>>>> the "increased_maxplayers" tag added for their server.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But let's say I run 25 maxplayers and hide the 25th slot (reserved
>>>>>>             
>> slot)
>>     
>>>>>> with sv_visiblemaxplayers 24. shouldn't I still be able to run
>>>>>>             
>> SourceTV
>>     
>>>>>> on top of that without having the "increased_maxplayers" tag added for
>>>>>> the server?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm trying to run SourceTV on a server with 24 players and add a
>>>>>>             
>> hidden
>>     
>>>>>> reserved slot without having the "increased_maxplayers" tag added. I
>>>>>> guess it is not possible?
>>>>>>
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