I think forums have an advantage over a mailing list (having been on this
list for many years) in that newcomers can find answers to questions already
answered, and other handy reference material can be kept around for others
to read.

One of the main benefits I found from being on this list however that was it
is easy to interact with, given that I'm on email every day, I can quickly
chime in to a conversation if I have something useful to offer.

I already post on the Steam forums, find them easy and quick to use and load
relatively quickly in my experience, and that's from Australia.

Another benefit of the mailing list was the dedicated server update
notifications which are always very handy (the time between an update being
posted and our servers then being updated is usually only ten minutes) -
from what I read though the hlds_announce@ list (which just contained server
announcements) would have been kept around, which is great.

I have also noticed Valve team members slowly drift away from this list, but
that may be because there is a bit more noise (in the good sense) and the
attention previously needed is no longer that necessary, as there are many
people here who already reply with helpful answers.

One thought I had regarding the forums was their separation; currently there
are four forums (Windows/Linux srcds/hlds), when we currently have two
mailing lists (hlds, hlds_linux).

I'm not sure what would be best, but perhaps two forums may help consolidate
the knowledge (the hlds/srcds forum would handle 90% of the support
problems), with the linux forum handling linux-specific issues?

Cheers,
Andrew
- Plasma

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Burton Johnsey
Sent: Tuesday, 10 February 2009 12:42 PM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: Re: [hlds] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

Given the feedback received from the list, we are holding off migrating the
mailing lists to the forums.

The intent of migrating to the forums was to leverage the benefits and
features of the forums to further strengthen the community, giving us a
central spot to gather feedback. The forum software is continually being
updated by vBulletin and is flexible enough to also allow us to add our own
features.

To address a couple of specific concerns about the forums:

- Membership - We can keep the membership in the DS forums private so that
random forum users cannot post.
- Moderation - We can assign moderators for specific forums. Moderators
would be volunteers from the current mailing list participants.
- Forum server performance - We have upgraded the system that runs the
forums and we do not experience the lag we were experiencing in the past
- The forums are accessible to more people than the mailing list.

 We want to make things better, not worse.  We appreciate any further
feedback you have to offer.


-----Original Message-----
From: Burton Johnsey
Date: Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 12:38 PM
Subject: Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists
To:
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>,
Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>,
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>


We will be shutting down the HLDS mailing lists on Friday, February 20th.

After February 20th, all server discussions should take place in one of the
forums listed below.

Windows server discussion should be conducted here:
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=44 (Source)
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=16 (Gldsrc)

Linux server discussion should be conducted here:
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=45 (Source)
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=19 (Gldsrc)

If you have not already done so, please register a forum
account<http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/register.php>.

NOTE: The mailing list archives will still be available for viewing.

-BurtonJ
Valve Software

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