"One of the main benefits I found from being on this list however that was it 
is easy to interact with, given that I'm on email every day, I can quickly 
chime in to a conversation if I have something useful to offer."

absolutely. what would be great would be a mailing list that would 
automatically post in the forum. That way we could participate through email 
like usual as well as through the steam website.

Thank you,
Alec Sanger
P: 248.941.3813
F: 313.286.8945



> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 13:24:39 +1100
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists
> 
> I think forums have an advantage over a mailing list (having been on this
> list for many years) in that newcomers can find answers to questions already
> answered, and other handy reference material can be kept around for others
> to read.
> 
> One of the main benefits I found from being on this list however that was it
> is easy to interact with, given that I'm on email every day, I can quickly
> chime in to a conversation if I have something useful to offer.
> 
> I already post on the Steam forums, find them easy and quick to use and load
> relatively quickly in my experience, and that's from Australia.
> 
> Another benefit of the mailing list was the dedicated server update
> notifications which are always very handy (the time between an update being
> posted and our servers then being updated is usually only ten minutes) -
> from what I read though the hlds_announce@ list (which just contained server
> announcements) would have been kept around, which is great.
> 
> I have also noticed Valve team members slowly drift away from this list, but
> that may be because there is a bit more noise (in the good sense) and the
> attention previously needed is no longer that necessary, as there are many
> people here who already reply with helpful answers.
> 
> One thought I had regarding the forums was their separation; currently there
> are four forums (Windows/Linux srcds/hlds), when we currently have two
> mailing lists (hlds, hlds_linux).
> 
> I'm not sure what would be best, but perhaps two forums may help consolidate
> the knowledge (the hlds/srcds forum would handle 90% of the support
> problems), with the linux forum handling linux-specific issues?
> 
> Cheers,
> Andrew
> - Plasma
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Burton Johnsey
> Sent: Tuesday, 10 February 2009 12:42 PM
> To: '[email protected]'
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists
> 
> Given the feedback received from the list, we are holding off migrating the
> mailing lists to the forums.
> 
> The intent of migrating to the forums was to leverage the benefits and
> features of the forums to further strengthen the community, giving us a
> central spot to gather feedback. The forum software is continually being
> updated by vBulletin and is flexible enough to also allow us to add our own
> features.
> 
> To address a couple of specific concerns about the forums:
> 
> - Membership - We can keep the membership in the DS forums private so that
> random forum users cannot post.
> - Moderation - We can assign moderators for specific forums. Moderators
> would be volunteers from the current mailing list participants.
> - Forum server performance - We have upgraded the system that runs the
> forums and we do not experience the lag we were experiencing in the past
> - The forums are accessible to more people than the mailing list.
> 
>  We want to make things better, not worse.  We appreciate any further
> feedback you have to offer.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Burton Johnsey
> Date: Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 12:38 PM
> Subject: Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists
> To:
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>,
> Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>,
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> 
> 
> We will be shutting down the HLDS mailing lists on Friday, February 20th.
> 
> After February 20th, all server discussions should take place in one of the
> forums listed below.
> 
> Windows server discussion should be conducted here:
> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=44 (Source)
> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=16 (Gldsrc)
> 
> Linux server discussion should be conducted here:
> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=45 (Source)
> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=19 (Gldsrc)
> 
> If you have not already done so, please register a forum
> account<http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/register.php>.
> 
> NOTE: The mailing list archives will still be available for viewing.
> 
> -BurtonJ
> Valve Software
> 
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