It's not that I don't want people actively farming on my servers. It's that I don't want people who would farm AT ALL on my servers. Running a honeypot is an excellent way to find and preemptively stop those who would farm from ever joining my real servers in the first place. Anyone who is caught farming in normal maps is dealt with in whatever way the admin or admins in the map at the time feel necessary.
On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 15:57 -0800, Brent Veal wrote: > If you don't want people farming on your servers, then why not just *not* > have achievement farming maps running on your servers. > > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 3:51 PM, msleeper <[email protected]> wrote: > > > More AlliedModders crosspost! > > > > > > > > You're free to think that. I think it is noble, and I think that if I > > had released this sooner - say, right after the Medic update - then > > maybe people would not have become as complacent with farming in the > > first place. Your example is bad too, by the way, because it implies > > that toys are bad. A better example would be posing as an underage girl > > and luring people to see you for sex, but then the police show up and > > bust you. If you weren't going to be doing something against the rules, > > you wouldn't have been there in the first place. > > > > And, yet again, I need to reiterate that this plugin is designed for > > communities who feel similarly about farming. Farming may be a-okay on > > your servers, but on mine it earns you a ban. > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 15:29 -0800, Blood Letter wrote: > > > This is not some noble cause that warrants beating your own drum in a > > one-man parade. > > > > > > > > > > > > What you're doing is the equivalent of a child offering to share their > > > toys with another child, then taking them away and yelling "NO! You're > > > not allowed to play with my toys anymore! And my friends all hate you > > > too! Hey everyone! Isn't this person stupid! Don't ever play with > > > him because he's stupid!" > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 18:16:35 -0500 > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Achievement Farmer Honeypot > > > > > > > > I am not trying to win anything. Farming is a polarized topic, where > > > > people feel agree it is wrong, or feel it is fine and isn't against the > > > > rules. Like all server communities, it is up to individual server > > admins > > > > to decide what they want to be allowed and not to be allowed. Am I > > > > saying that every single admin or player out there needs to feel the > > > > same way I do? Of course not. > > > > > > > > I'm not going to say that people need to feel the same way I feel about > > > > farming, either. It's not "off base" and it's not the way that you > > feel, > > > > so awesome. Don't run it, and enjoy farmers on your servers. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 16:54 -0600, CLAN RCR wrote: > > > > > msleeper, you are entirely missing the principal people are using to > > judge > > > > > your logic/decision to base your bans off of. > > > > > > > > > > Until you decide to at least consider the fact that you might > > possibly be > > > > > off base, weather or not you wrote a plugin to do this or that is a > > moot > > > > > point. The quality or usability of the plugin isn't what is behind > > the > > > > > driving force to resist you, it is the logic that farming is somehow > > a > > > > > banable offence that people are disagreeing with, and until you > > consider the > > > > > other arguements logically you will never win the arguement. > > > > > > > > > > -Matt > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 4:41 PM, msleeper <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hey look I can crosspost to AlliedModders too. FYI my Karma is back > > up > > > > > > to where it was before, not like I care too much. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think you're missing the point. Nobody is forcing you to use the > > > > > > plugin, or enforce the banlist I have up. I am being called > > > > > > self-righteous, but then being flamed and -Karma'd for something > > that > > > > > > nobody is being held at gun point to use. > > > > > > > > > > > > If you don't like it, don't use it. 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