I gotta agree with Karl here. If these achievements weren't built into
the game, we wouldn't be having all this "drama" 

-mauirixxx
-Sent from his can't we all just get along crIphone
-----Original Message-----
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Karl Weckstrom
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 3:00 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] A question of ethics

I think the big point here is that Achievements in a PC game are up
there with free public wifi. A great idea in theory, but an absolute
disaster in practice.  

-----Original Message-----
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of SakeFox
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 7:51 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] A question of ethics

i personally just don't care about either and wish the spam fest just to
end and the mailing list go back to what it was intended for

Donnie Newlove wrote:
> How many of you who look down on msleepers truly horrible and 
> unforgivable acts against the community that threaten to ruin the very

> core of everything we hold dear have ever used a fake client plugin?
>
> What do you think players find more annoying, not being able to join 
> one out of a hundred communities for doing something that the 
> community are against or not being able to find a place to play 
> because of hundreds of empty servers trying to lure players in there 
> so that they can... well, I don't know exactly. Leave and try to find 
> a new one obviously. At least I know which of these two honeypots I 
> think is worse.
>
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