Well said. We're spoiled and we don't realize it.
On Thu, 2009-03-05 at 13:40 -1000, Rick Payton wrote: > Every release, WE are the beta testers. Don't you know that by now? ;) > > Besides, it could be worse. We could be dealing with EA/Dice and that > horrid horrid BF2 v1.3 patch that was ultra crash happy for servers for > what ... 6 MONTHS or so before there was a stable fix? > > It could be worse. > > -mauirixxx > - Sent from my #hlserveradmins IRC fanboyism > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Aj Collins > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:35 PM > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Coming > > 1. You don't need an NDA to do a beta, especially if you have nothing > not known by the public. > 2. They have done beta updates to clients in the past and there is a > beta option in the settings of Steam. > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Arg! <[email protected]> wrote: > > > since the dedicated server is free and theres no NDA or similar > > licensing arrangement, and in the case of most updates the client has > > to be updated as well, this would never work. > > > > On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:17 AM, SmOoThEm <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > That's awesome, I didn't have anything else to do today besides try > > > to > > fix > > > mystery updates and problems being reintroduced into my servers. > > > > > > WE NEED A BETA PERIOD, MAKING PATCHES FINAL WITHOUT TESTING FORCES > > EVERYONE > > > TO SCRAMBLE TO FIND SOLUTIONS NORMALLY ENDING IN HORRIBLE OUTCOMES! > > > Im sure everyone on this list would love to have a beta testing > > > period > > for > > > patches given we have a large community invested in the quality of > > > our servers with a minimal downtime requirement. Valve, at least > > > give us one day to test and patch our server plug-in's before final > > > release? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Arg! > > > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:01 PM > > > To: [email protected]; Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Coming > > > > > > thanks for the advance heads up, now, wheres my debugging stick. > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 9:55 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Fixing problems, then introducing new problems. > > > > > > > > ------Original Message------ > > > > From: Saul Rennison > > > > Sender: [email protected] > > > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > > > > ReplyTo: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Coming > > > > Sent: Mar 5, 2009 5:43 PM > > > > > > > > Which will bring...? > > > > > > > > 2009/3/5 Jason Ruymen <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > A required update for Team Fortress 2 will be released later > > > > > today, hopefully within the next hour or two. > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > > > please visit: > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Thanks, > > > > - Saul. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > archives, please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > archives, please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
